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Old February 19th, 2013, 07:54 PM   #11
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The most likely scenario is the CIA was acting on its own, like usual, and the administration, like all administrations in these situations, had to cover the CIA's ass when something went wrong.

The "justice" meted out in this case was Petraeus' "affair" being outed, if it really occurred.
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Old February 19th, 2013, 08:07 PM   #12
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The most likely scenario is the CIA was acting on its own, and the administration, like always, had to cover the CIA's ass when something went wrong.

The "justice" meted out in this case was Petraeus' "affair" being outed, if it really occurred.
Your likely scenario suggests the state dept didn't know the risks...AND...lied about the cause afterwards; both of which puts Monica's ex-boyfriend's wife (MEBW) in it neck deep.

The fact that you make an issue out of outing Petraeus' affair, and not wanting MEBW fired suggests you (and your kind) find it perfectly OK for the state department to ignore an obvious risk. You also seem to find it reprehensible for anyone (including MEBW) to figure out what happened. And you, like obama's administration, don't care to understand how to prevent it from happening again.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 05:26 AM   #13
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under the liberal dogma just mentioning the cia dismisses the issue.

as if that justifies that these people were tortured for hours, raped and then murdered.

the more obvious explanation for what is going on: obama claimed libya as a big victory, the terrorist risks gave lie to obama's win, so he ignored it. when reality overtook the situation obama ducked for cover, his behind flunkies and invented the wacky lie about a video and then a demonstration that never happened.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 09:28 AM   #14
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Your likely scenario suggests the state dept didn't know the risks...AND...lied about the cause afterwards; both of which puts Monica's ex-boyfriend's wife (MEBW) in it neck deep.

The fact that you make an issue out of outing Petraeus' affair, and not wanting MEBW fired suggests you (and your kind) find it perfectly OK for the state department to ignore an obvious risk. You also seem to find it reprehensible for anyone (including MEBW) to figure out what happened. And you, like obama's administration, don't care to understand how to prevent it from happening again.
I didn't say one thing about it being perfectly OK for the state department to ignore an obvious risk. I didn't say a thing about it being reprehensible for anyone to figure out what happened. And it's BS that I don't care to understand how to prevent such incidents in the future.

In fact, your entire post is BS, your pitiful, partisan BS. You tried to put it in my mouth to make your vapid and dull-witted "points." You failed.

Some incidents, like this one, like the alleged pre-warning on the Pearl Harbor attack, like the Gulf of Tonkin incident, like Iraq's WMDs ... are you getting the picture? ... DON"T ever get resolved, but you, and your kind, love to twist and turn what is known to advance your pea-brained, paranoiac, partisan perfidy.

Fail.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 10:50 AM   #15
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This is just the latest conspiracy theory, couched in "OMG, don't let the black guy win."

Well, I hate to break the news, but the black guy won. Twice, in fact.

Now, let's just get on with it, and quit obsessing over every time he might break wind sideways.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 11:06 AM   #16
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Not to mention that this big to do about ignoring risks is bulls**t anyway. The State Department has hundreds of warning about dozens of places. They cannot get everything perfectly right every time and prevent our people from danger 100% of the time.
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Your likely scenario suggests the state dept didn't know the risks...AND...lied about the cause afterwards; both of which puts Monica's ex-boyfriend's wife (MEBW) in it neck deep.

The fact that you make an issue out of outing Petraeus' affair, and not wanting MEBW fired suggests you (and your kind) find it perfectly OK for the state department to ignore an obvious risk. You also seem to find it reprehensible for anyone (including MEBW) to figure out what happened. And you, like obama's administration, don't care to understand how to prevent it from happening again.
Actually that's most of what they have been trying to do. So much so that the right still managed to find time to carry on with bogus-ity.
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the brits pulled their ambassador before the attack, our ambassador begged repeatedly for more security. the risk in libya was well known, the only hang up was obama recognizing the failure of his policy
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Um, no. The report was made public and the failures were pointed out in it. And none of them were Obama's. Sorry.
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I didn't say one thing about it being perfectly OK for the state department to ignore an obvious risk. I didn't say a thing about it being reprehensible for anyone to figure out what happened. And it's BS that I don't care to understand how to prevent such incidents in the future.

In fact, your entire post is BS, your pitiful, partisan BS. You tried to put it in my mouth to make your vapid and dull-witted "points." You failed.

Some incidents, like this one, like the alleged pre-warning on the Pearl Harbor attack, like the Gulf of Tonkin incident, like Iraq's WMDs ... are you getting the picture? ... DON"T ever get resolved, but you, and your kind, love to twist and turn what is known to advance your pea-brained, paranoiac, partisan perfidy.

Fail.
You need to take chill pill little specimen. Agreed, I'm partisan because of the disdain people (mostly dems and some so called independents) have for honesty and rationalism. Lately, even a hint of justification for what this wacko administration is doing sets me off, and in some cases, causes me to read into things that aren't there. So sorry if I misinterpreted your comment. But your response was way over the *u**ing top. So cut the f**k mouth.
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