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Old April 15th, 2013, 02:26 PM   #51
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As would be a doctor adjudicating a person mentally ill in court....duh.

The legal process in Social Security is the ability to appeal a decision.
A doctor would testify in court with their professional opinion, the judge would do the adjudicating. The last time I checked, no witnesses allowed to pronounce the judgement, but rather the judge seemed to always be the one who handled that.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 02:29 PM   #52
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A doctor would testify in court with their professional opinion, the judge would do the adjudicating. The last time I checked, no witnesses allowed to pronounce the judgement, but rather the judge seemed to always be the one who handled that.
No, the judge asks the doctor to adjudicate whether a person is mentally ill or not, as he's not a psychiatrist. Last I knew, Judges don't become psychiatrists.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 02:32 PM   #53
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No, the judge asks the doctor to adjudicate whether a person is mentally ill or not, as he's not a psychiatrist. Last I knew, Judges don't become psychiatrists.
You should probably learn what a legal adjudication is and the process. You have blew past left field on this subject, and the Hubble is having trouble picking you up.
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You should probably learn what a legal adjudication is and the process. You have blew past left field on this subject, and the Hubble is having trouble picking you up.
Cute comment...but lacks in facts and substantiation. Just another right wing deflection of a discussion.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 02:35 PM   #55
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Cute comment...but lacks in facts and substantiation. Just another right wing deflection of a discussion.
Actually it is another left wing ideologue who thinks the meaning of a term is what they want it to be. Why don't you link that?
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insanity n. 1) mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy from reality, cannot conduct her/his affairs due to psychosis, or is subject to uncontrollable impulsive behavior. Insanity is distinguished from low intelligence or mental deficiency due to age or injury. If a complaint is made to law enforcement, to the district attorney, or to medical personnel that a person is evidencing psychotic behavior, he/she may be confined to a medical facility long enough (typically 72 hours) to be examined by psychiatrists who submit written reports to the local superior/county/district court. A hearing is then held before a judge, with the person in question entitled to legal representation, to determine if she/he should be placed in an institution or special facility. The person may request a trial to determine sanity. The original hearings are often routine with the psychiatric findings accepted by the judge. I
insanity legal definition of insanity. insanity synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

Judge accepts the adjudicating by the psychiatrist on the insanity decision of a person. The judge does not adjudicate if a person is insane or not but ACCEPTS the adjudication of the psychiatrist.

Make a note to yourself, again. I'll always give you a citation for what I say. And I'll make a note to myself. you probably will never reciprocate.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 02:45 PM   #57
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the point is POLICE ARE DETERMINING who is metally ill.. HOW MANY OTHER CASES OCCURED where the individual did not challenge the police.

is this the only time or the 10,000th time..

the problem is THE STATE POLICE made the ORIGINAL JUDGEMENT.. who gave them this power? that is the question.

Not that the police were proven WRONG. the question is WHO GAVE THEM THE POWER TO DO THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Like I said it happened also in CA... so this is INTERSTATE not local problem.


THE POLICE PRESUMED GUILT.. which is a violation of the US Constitution. Violation of his Civil Rights.. by those that TOOK AN OATH TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION.
No, they are not determining that and when thy do overstep their bounds and do that, they face being sued like they were for doing it in the case you gave as an example. Again, since you refuse to even try to understand the law's requirements for being prevented from legally buying a gun through a background check, you have to have been found unfit by a doctor and a court to be placed on the list.
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As noted, doctors do not adjudicate but give evidence at most. Only a judge would adjudicate this issue.

From the Free Dictionary.

ad·ju·di·cate Pronunciation (-jd-kt)

v. ad·ju·di·cat·ed, ad·ju·di·cat·ing, ad·ju·di·cates
v.tr.
1. To hear and settle (a case) by judicial procedure.
2. To study and settle (a dispute or conflict): The principal adjudicated our quarrel.
v.intr.
To act as a judge.

[Latin adidicre, adidict-, to award to (judicially) : ad-, ad- + idicre, to judge (from idex, judge; see judge).]
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As noted, doctors do not adjudicate but give evidence at most. Only a judge would adjudicate this issue.

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ad·ju·di·cate Pronunciation (-jd-kt)

v. ad·ju·di·cat·ed, ad·ju·di·cat·ing, ad·ju·di·cates
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1. To hear and settle (a case) by judicial procedure.
2. To study and settle (a dispute or conflict): The principal adjudicated our quarrel.
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To act as a judge.

[Latin adidicre, adidict-, to award to (judicially) : ad-, ad- + idicre, to judge (from idex, judge; see judge).]
Combined with my definition, this means the judge leaves the decision, the adjudicating of the person as mentally ill or not, up to the doctor....
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Old April 15th, 2013, 03:52 PM   #60
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And those who try to buy a gun and are prohibited from doing so legally are the only ones that background checks are going to prevent from buying guns. Background checks are not gun control.
Of course this is not gun-control, it was not intended to be gun control. Gun control is about limiting a legal, law abiding citizens right to bear arms and that is an open affront to the 2nd Amendment and cannot, and will not be tolerated.
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