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Old April 16th, 2013, 10:24 AM   #1
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3 Leaked Immigration Reform Details You Need To Know

This all sounds too ... logical, and it's sure to start some hearts to bleeding for the "poor immigrants" who will be excluded.

Nonetheless, it's seldom I can give a thumbs-up to something coming out of DC, but this sounds pretty good.

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After months of negotiations, a group of Democrats and Republicans in the Senate are poised to release a broad immigration reform bill within the next few days.

The bill would create a pathway to citizenship for some of the country's 11 million undocumented immigrants and earmark billions for border security.

Although senators working on the bill have stressed that the document still isn't finalized, some important details have leaked in the past week.

Here's what you need to know:

1. The Border Security "Trigger" The bill creates a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who meet certain qualifications, but applicants would need to undergo a 10-year probationary period before being eligible for a green card.

The decade-long wait comes with another caveat: The federal government will need to meet certain border security benchmarks before any undocumented immigrants can receive a green card.

The benchmarks? An operational border security plan, a completed border fence, a mandatory employment verification system across the country and a system to track exits at airports and seaports, according to reports in several news outlets.

The border security plan would require surveillance of 100 percent of the U.S.-Mexico border and 90 percent effectiveness in border enforcement, The New York Times reported.

If those goals are met, immigrants who completed the 10-year waiting period would be eligible to apply for a green card.

2. The Cut-Off Date Of the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S., hundreds of thousands may not be eligible for the path to citizenship being offered by the Senate, the AP reported on Friday.

The bill requires that applicants prove they were in the country before December 31, 2011, the AP reported. That means anyone who arrived after that date would be excluded.

There will be other requirements, too, like proving you have a clean criminal record and that you have enough job stability to stay off welfare. How the bill defines those things -- criminality and financial stability -- could decide the fate of thousands.

3. More Visas for Workers The majority of immigrants who receive legal permanent residence in the U.S. get their visas because of family ties.

But the Senate bill will add a major new "merit-based" program, The New York Times reported on Thursday.

Here's what will happen, according to the Times:

Over a 10-year period, the government will seek to clear the backlog of 4.7 million immigrants waiting to come to the U.S.

After that, the bill will create a new, merit-based visa program that will offer legal permanent residence based on work skills.

At the same time, some family-based visas will be eliminated. Siblings of U.S. citizens would no longer be eligible for green cards, the documents that show legal permanent residence.

The exact balance of family visas to employment visas in the Senate proposal isn't clear, but the bill would focus on bringing in more workers of all skill levels.
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Why reward law breaking? And what if the number is more like 20 million? And the government needs to meet certain criteria first? How long until they ignore this provision? They currently ignore most of the laws dealing with the border and illegals anyway, why would this time be different?

And family visa's needs to be ended, now. Parents should be allowed to bring in any minor children, that's it. No adult children, no brothers or sisters or aunts and uncles or parents or grandparents, etc. Which is the case now, bringing in elderly relatives to be placed on our social safety net system, happens all the time.

Also, we need to emulate Canada, also a nation of immigrants, where popping out a baby in the country does not qualify the baby for citizenship. Thus granting the motehr permanent status, which eventually leads to her bringing in papa and other family members.
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i accept we are forced by circumstance to create some form of legal residence for the illegal immigrants who have swamped us. citizenship? no, never, no reason to give away to thieves something millions wait in line for.

well, maybe not no reason, there are those pandering politicians out trying to buy votes.
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Microsoft "Bait and Switch" Could Mean a Huge Increase in Foreign Tech Workers | Mother Jones

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For more than a decade, Microsoft has supplemented its American-born workforce with foreigners who come to the US on temporary H-1B work visas. The federal government offers just 65,000 H-1B visas each year, however, and in prosperous years the cap quickly maxes out. In September, the software giant claimed it couldn't fill some 6,000 domestic jobs due to a shortage of qualified Americans and a lack of available visas.

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The company proposed a novel workaround: If the federal government would raise the H1-B cap by 20,000 additional visas and make available an equal number of additional green cards, Microsoft said it would be willing to pay nearly four times the usual fees, handing over $10,000 per H-1B visa and $15,000 per green card. It called its proposal the National Talent Strategy because the additional revenue—more than $500 million annually—would be used to fund STEM education programs around the country.

For political support, Microsoft turned to the STEM coalition, a powerful force on Capitol Hill. Its members include corporations such as Time Warner Cable, education nonprofits such as the National Science Teachers Association, and labor advocates such as the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Last year, the coalition spent nearly $250,000 lobbying Congress on education issues. But the coalition may have had yet another allure for the tech giant: Its executive director, James Brown, lobbies legislators directly on behalf of Microsoft.

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Immigration is not only about jobs going to foreign nations. It's about undermining the American pay by importing people to make less wages.

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This guide deals with H-1B visas for foreign doctors and physicians who would like to work in the US.

Before the Immigration Act of 1990, the only way for physicians to come to the US to engage in graduate medical training was to enter in J-1 status. But the 1990 Act dropped this requirement and for many years now physicians have been able to use the H-1B visa to join residency and fellowship programs.

Doctors who are seeking employment in the US should bear in mind that there are special licensing requirements, and because of this start planning before the completion of medical school. Getting an H-1B visa is not always easy and even getting H-1B status is not free from problems. With adequate preparation, however, and the help of workpermit.com, a foreign national physician should be able to get employment authorization in the US, especially in medically underserved areas or health professional shortage areas.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 04:03 PM   #5
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Immigration is not only about jobs going to foreign nations. It's about undermining the American pay by importing people to make less wages.
Ask anybody in the building trades about that .... eight or nine years ago.
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Legal immigrants okay

illegal immgrants boot to the butt home.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 10:38 PM   #7
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Let’s say you have three car dealerships in your town. Two of the dealerships are owned by back stabbing thieves who pickpocket you when you come in the front door and mug you when you go out the back. They are walking weasels who would screw their own mother out of a dime.

You can choose to buy your car from one of the two crooks or go down the street and give honest Fred your business instead. He’s long been known as one who gives customers a fair deal.

Then totally out of the blue these three dealership owners are plucked from their jobs and given the task of writing legislation for immigration reform. Surprisingly enough, they produce the framework of a system that looks pretty good on paper after 6 months work.

Now you find yourself in a Catch 22. Despite the fact that you know immigration reform is very badly needed you can’t escape the fact that the walking weasels are surely up to no good. But, on the other hand, doing nothing appears to be the worst option of all.

So you tighten up your sphincter, lock your wallet in a safe, and hope and pray that for just once in their life the walking weasels do the right thing.
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Let’s say you have three car dealerships in your town. Two of the dealerships are owned by back stabbing thieves who pickpocket you when you come in the front door and mug you when you go out the back. They are walking weasels who would screw their own mother out of a dime.

You can choose to buy your car from one of the two crooks or go down the street and give honest Fred your business instead. He’s long been known as one who gives customers a fair deal.

Then totally out of the blue these three dealership owners are plucked from their jobs and given the task of writing legislation for immigration reform. Surprisingly enough, they produce the framework of a system that looks pretty good on paper after 6 months work.

Now you find yourself in a Catch 22. Despite the fact that you know immigration reform is very badly needed you can’t escape the fact that the walking weasels are surely up to no good. But, on the other hand, doing nothing appears to be the worst option of all.

So you tighten up your sphincter, lock your wallet in a safe, and hope and pray that for just once in their life the walking weasels do the right thing.
Yep, that's exactly how I feel.

After going through the legal immigration process with my wife, I understand the allure of emigrating illegally. She was put through a process more rigorous than the one being proposed, especially regarding her health and vaccination status.

The fact that Mexico isn't our partner is keeping the border sealed is telling. I mean, what the heck happens when their oil fields dry up?

And like Mrs. CJ Parker pointed out, corporate greed is driving part of this effort. Green cards for sale....
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Immigration reform can occur by simply creating a web based system for verifying legal status and enforcing our existing laws.

If businesses had an easy quick web based photo ID system of e-verifying, it would prevent the hiring of ILLEGAL ALIENS; no they are not undocumented immigrants. What a moronic term.

If they cannot get jobs here, they will leave of their own accord. Of course with so many Democrats willing to look the other way and Democrat Liberal bastions like San Francisco becoming a "sanctuary" city for ILLEGAL ALIENS, it is an uphill battle for those who believe in the rule of law.

We don't need fences or paths to citizenship; we need States that uphold the law and a modern system for verifying legal status to work. Nothing more, and nothing less.
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Sometimes I have crazy ideas.

If we annexed Mexico it would solve lots of problems. For one, their citizens could buy guns for which to fight the drug cartels with. Eventually, Obama will quit supplying the cartels with guns and the playing field will start to level.

Plus, we can save federal dollars by not having to advertise in Mexico about our killer food stamp program. And all those ICE agents that are being forced to break the law by Obama can finally sleep at night. And ranchers that live near the border won’t have to sleep with a shotgun across their chest anymore.

It wouldn’t bother me to pick up a few billion barrels of oil a month either. Plus, our food and music would get better. Another plus is that politicians in Mexico would become less corrupt. Okay, scratch that one.

And probably the best reason for annexing Mexico is that it would be easier to take my family snorkeling in Akumal.
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