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Old April 18th, 2013, 09:49 AM   #1
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Moslems Not Exempt From Obama (Doesn't Really) Care

There's been rumors that Moslems are exempt form Obama (really doesn't) care. Not true. See: Religious Exemption Included in 'Obamacare' Individual Mandate
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There's been rumors that Moslems are exempt form Obama (really doesn't) care. Not true. See: Religious Exemption Included in 'Obamacare' Individual Mandate
First Muslims are not specifically exempted. Most will have a hard time getting an exemption.

To understand what the exemption means you have to go read the IRS tax code. There is an exemption, BUT when you apply for it, you must be able to show a long standing RELIGIOUS prohibition against insurance of ANY KIND.

There are a LOT of Muslims driving cars, and most states require insurance !!! Many Muslims already have (and pay for) health insurance through their jobs, just like the rest of us.

Now, as Paul Harvey used the say, the REST of the story. If you are granted an exemption, it's not just about health insurance. It's about ALL government benefits. If you OPT OUT, under the IRS religious exception rules, you lose ALL rights to access government aid services !!! No welfare, no food stamps, no WIC, no section 8. Fine you say !!

MORE IMPORTANTLY, no SOCIAL SECURITY, medicare, medicaid or disability. You may also be exempted from disaster aid, SBA loans, HUD loans, as well as, other federally funded but state run programs.

In other words, no safety net for you, or your family !
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"show long standing religious prohibition......" what the.......? so now we have to register our religion with the government and get permission if we want to convert?

anybody besides me see a problem with this?
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First Muslims are not specifically exempted. Most will have a hard time getting an exemption.

To understand what the exemption means you have to go read the IRS tax code. There is an exemption, BUT when you apply for it, you must be able to show a long standing RELIGIOUS prohibition against insurance of ANY KIND.

There are a LOT of Muslims driving cars, and most states require insurance !!! Many Muslims already have (and pay for) health insurance through their jobs, just like the rest of us.

Now, as Paul Harvey used the say, the REST of the story. If you are granted an exemption, it's not just about health insurance. It's about ALL government benefits. If you OPT OUT, under the IRS religious exception rules, you lose ALL rights to access government aid services !!! No welfare, no food stamps, no WIC, no section 8. Fine you say !!

MORE IMPORTANTLY, no SOCIAL SECURITY, medicare, medicaid or disability. You may also be exempted from disaster aid, SBA loans, HUD loans, as well as, other federally funded but state run programs.

In other words, no safety net for you, or your family !
The trouble is no one will check and they will still get their freebies!
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Moslems cannot claim exemption as they are paying SS. It was mere rumor, as I pointed out, that they are exempt form Obama (doesn't really) care.
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"show long standing religious prohibition......" what the.......? so now we have to register our religion with the government and get permission if we want to convert?

anybody besides me see a problem with this?
The 'long standing' means the Amish, Mennonites and similar. It means you cannot come up with the claim now, out of the blue. So if you follow all the other 'stuff', such as paying into SS, unemployment insurance, etc., you can't suddenly make a claim of exemption. If you convert to Amish or Mennonite, or another 'long standing religious prohibition' group, then you likely can claim exemption from Obama's care(less) program.
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still reads like govt interfering in religion
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Old April 18th, 2013, 10:59 AM   #8
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It is what it is. Perhaps someone could prevail in the courts otherwise. But that would require millions of dollars and is doubtful they would prevail. One cannot claim human sacrifice as a religious exemption, even if one comes from a long line of such practice. Even if the victim is a willing one, as the only way to his god. Not yet anyway.
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There's been rumors that Moslems are exempt form Obama (really doesn't) care. Not true. See: Religious Exemption Included in 'Obamacare' Individual Mandate
The health-sharing ministry loophole is one reason, among many, why ObamaCare is unacceptable for Americans and must be removed from H.R. 3590.
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The Repubs in the House are working to prop up this disaster.
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