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Old May 8th, 2013, 03:07 PM   #1
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Firearm Deaths on The Rise in Florida

Firearm Deaths on The Rise in Florida | TheLedger.com

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Michael David Dunn didn't like the volume of music coming from the SUV parked next to him at a Jacksonville gas station. So, he yelled over the bass vibrating from a boxed speaker in the back of a red Dodge Durango and told the men inside to quiet down.

"Kill him," one of the Durango's passengers responded, according to Dunn's account. Dunn, who is white, said one of the young black men in the SUV reached down for a shotgun. Dunn pulled out a 9-millimeter Taurus handgun from his glove box. He fired eight or nine times.

The bullets sliced through the rear passenger door, striking 17-year-old Jordan Davis in the chest and legs. A high school senior with plans to go into the military, Davis died before arriving at the hospital.

While it's unclear whether Dunn was the aggressor or defending himself with his handgun, shootings like this one on Nov. 23, 2012, now are common in Florida.

Murders by firearms have increased dramatically in the state since 2000, when there were 499 gun murders, according to data from Florida Department of Law Enforcement. Gun murders have since climbed 38 percent — with 691 murders committed with guns in 2011.

Only partial numbers are available for 2012, but from January to June, there were 479 murders in Florida — 358 of them committed with a gun. That's an 8 percent increase in gun murders compared to the same period in 2011.
Death rates from guns, traffic accidents converging

Death rates from guns, traffic accidents converging

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The center, a non-profit organization that lobbies for firearm regulation and that is funded mainly by the Chicago-based Joyce Foundation, has new data that show that the number of car accident deaths in 12 states is lower than the number of firearm deaths there, she said.

Such statistics are misleading, said John Lott, an economist and author of More Guns, Less Crime. That's because gun-related homicides and accidents have gone down, while suicide deaths by firearm have gone up, he claims.

He said there's no need for legislation: Since the assault rifle ban ended in 2004, he said there has been twice as large a drop in firearm deaths.

But experts from the National Academies of Science's National Research Council have taken issue with his numbers, which also don't gel with the CDC's findings. In 2004, there were 11,624 gun homicides -- up from 10,828 in 1999. When the assault rifle ban ended, the numbers shot up to 12,632 in 2007 before slowly coming back down to 11,098 in 2010. There has been a corresponding decrease in violence in those years, leading researchers to say a correlation between the end of the ban and fewer gun murders is impossible to make. Deaths from accidental discharges dropped from 824 in 1999 to 600 in 2009. Firearm homicides rose from 10,828 in 1999 to 11,493 in 2009, a 6% increase.

"I assume the number of intentional car deaths is pretty small," Lott said, as an explanation for why traffic deaths have gone down while firearm deaths continue to rise.

In 1999, 87 people intentionally killed themselves through car accidents; the number increased to 104 in 2009, according to the CDC. However, researchers at the Suicide Prevention Center have said as many as 2% of car accidents may be suicides, and that they are often reported as accidents.

The number of firearm deaths by "intentional self harm" was 16,599 in 1999, and 18,735 in 2009 – a 13% increase, according to the CDC.

Lott said regulations won't affect those numbers, however, because people will simply find other methods to get the job done.

"I guess the question is, if you're going to talk about safety features, what's going to stop someone from suicide? Safety features aren't going to change how someone intentionally uses a gun," he said.

Catherine Barber, of the Harvard Injury Control and Research Center and the author of a recent report on suicide mortality, said that's not necessarily the case. "You can always find a way, but there are very big differences in the proportion of methods that result in death," she said.

In the 1990s, pesticides were the leading cause of suicide in Sri Lanka, she said. But when the country removed the most toxic of those chemicals from the shelves, the suicide rate dropped by half. Non-fatal poisoning did not go down.

"The misery wasn't changing, but fewer people were dying," Barber said. And, though someone may remain depressed for several days, "the acute period where you're actually willing to pull the trigger is very short," she said.

For 24% of people contemplating suicide, it's about five minutes, research has found.

"Gun owners are at a higher risk of suicide in general," she said, adding that they're not more likely to screen higher for suicidal tendencies or depression. "It's just that they're more likely to die because of the greater lethality of guns."

Still, Barber hasn't proposed stricter gun laws – just more education. Gun owners and suicide prevention groups should work together to make sure people stay alert to signs of crisis. In Newtown, Conn., it's been reported that the shooter's mother knew her son needed help, but he was still able to gain access to her weapons. If a family member seems unwell, it might be a "good time to store guns or ask a friend to hold them," Barber said.

"People can become very polarized when talking about legislation, but I think there's a lot of common ground between gun owners and non-gun owners," she said. "Seems like awareness might have averted a tragedy in Newtown."

But it can be difficult to get those lessons out to the public, said Lois Fingerhut, who used to conduct injury research analysis for the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics and now works as a consultant. Pro-gun rights groups, such as the National Rifle Association, have consistently opposed government-sponsored research on guns. In the 1990s, a bill by then-Rep. Jay Dickey, R-Ark., prevented the CDC from conducting firearm research. Another provision on the annual spending bill for the CDC bars the agency from advocating or promoting gun control. The CDC still collects data about firearms deaths but conducts no research.
Not quite the findings the right wingers would have you like. AND with the NRA trying to stop research on this, it only makes the point more dramatic..more deaths come from guns than cars will be the newest headline in a year.
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All those old retired people in Florida are trying to shoot gators, but missing and hitting each other.
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Researchers from the University of Colorado, Denver analyzed trauma center data from over 7,000 children and young people between the years 2000-2008. What they found was alarming: Younger adults and children with gun injuries were 10 times more likely to die than their counterparts who came into the ER with other injuries.

According to Global Post, the study also found:

—While only 2 percent of the young people brought into trauma centers were victims of gun violence, a whopping 13 percent of them died.

—Half of all gun injury victims needed critical care.

—Death rates for other injuries such as car accidents and falls were much lower: 1.7 percent.

—As the years passed in the study, the severity of injuries worsened, but emergency gun injury care improved too, helping keep more victims alive.

But what is placing younger people into the crosshairs and why are their injuries so fatal?

Unfortunately, the study’s researchers do not provide concrete answers to these questions. Nor does the study take into account the number of children, teens and young adults who died on the scene from being shot. But Dr. Angela Sauaia, the study’s lead author, is clear that gun violence is a serious health issue that needs to be addressed.

“Compared with other serious injuries, firearm injuries were more severe, more often required intensive care, and claimed more lives, justifying focusing on pediatric firearm injuries as a prevention priority.”
Gun violence up among youth.
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All those old retired people in Florida are trying to shoot gators, but missing and hitting each other.
LOL!!!

Nah, gun deaths are up..and have been going up..including 5 year olds killing their 2 year old siblings....twice that happened within a week. And suicides at NASCAR races and just plain stupidity in shooting people at NRA rallies.
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Most of it is probably tied to gang, drug trade or other criminal activity.
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Most of it is probably tied to gang, drug trade or other criminal activity.
Brought on by high unemployment, drugs distributed in the poor neighborhoods like the CIA did in LA to get money for their wars, and lack of affordable housing.
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LOL!!!

Nah, gun deaths are up..and have been going up..including 5 year olds killing their 2 year old siblings....twice that happened within a week. And suicides at NASCAR races and just plain stupidity in shooting people at NRA rallies.
A five year old accidentally shooting his two year old sibling is directly related to utter parental ineptitude and stupidity.

Suicide is nothing new. It's as old as humanity. That somebody decided to do it at a NASCAR rally is completely beside the point. Tony Scott publicly committed suicide by jumping off a metropolitan bridge.

Most gun shows are incredibly safe places to be. You're far more likely to be shot in strictly gun-controlled neighborhood in Chicago, than at a gun show or NRA event.
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A five year old accidentally shooting his two year old sibling is directly related to utter parental ineptitude and stupidity.

Suicide is nothing new. It's as old as humanity. That somebody decided to do it at a NASCAR rally is completely beside the point. Tony Scott publicly committed suicide by jumping off a metropolitan bridge.

Most gun shows are incredibly safe places to be. You're far more likely to be shot in strictly gun-controlled neighborhood in Chicago, than at a gun show or NRA event.
Agreed but the rah rah guns are something the President won't take from us lies FEEDS those stupid parents to TRAIN their children to have guns!!!

Suicide deaths by guns are on the rise...something is wrong...like fighting in a war constantly for 5 years of your military life.

Guns shows attract the felons and mentally insane who legally buy guns there because there is NO background check required.
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Brought on by high unemployment, drugs distributed in the poor neighborhoods like the CIA did in LA to get money for their wars, and lack of affordable housing.
I don't own much to conspiracy theories.

The fact it, humanity as a whole is in the tumult of trying to evolve toward maturity, while also having a deep spiritual crisis.

Despair, substance abuse, crime, suicide, are all merely symptoms of our spiritual lassitude and dis-connect -- from reality and from each other.
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I don't own much to conspiracy theories.

The fact it, humanity as a whole is in the tumult of trying to evolve toward maturity, while also having a deep spiritual crisis.

Despair, substance abuse, crime, suicide, are all merely symptoms of our spiritual lassitude and dis-connect -- from reality and from each other.
High unemployment, low educational opportunities, bad housing and other elements which contribute to gangs is not a conspiracy theory. I can only assert you have little to no knowledge of society in the inner city,as it is called, anymore than you have knowledge of the meth labs and birchers in rural areas.

There's not immaturity in humanity...there's an assault from the rich and the government to take away our necessities.

"Spiritual" is what caused this collapse in our society. The rich invented the born again evangelicals who have since 1970's taken social issues and voted for the rich to get richer....you have no idea of the history of the anti-Christ campaigns do you ?
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