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Old June 10th, 2013, 11:46 AM   #1
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"A U.S. Internal Revenue Service manager, who described himself as a conservative Republican, told congressional investigators that he and a local colleague decided to give conservative groups the extra scrutiny that has prompted weeks of political controversy.

In an official interview transcript released on Sunday by Democratic Representative Elijah Cummings, the manager said he and an underling set aside “Tea Party” and “patriot” groups that had applied for tax-exempt status because the organizations appeared to pose a new precedent that could affect future IRS filings."


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So I follow your link and guess what, up pops a message from the Democratic Party.

So added to all their other failures, they're spammers.
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"Fox News dishonestly dismissed a Democratic congressman's statement that the mystery of who began the IRS' inappropriate targeting of conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status has been solved."
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Old June 18th, 2013, 01:33 PM   #5
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Seems like the Democrats have no problem letting the people see the testimony

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Leaders on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee are escalating the battle over the investigation into the IRS tea party targeting scandal.

Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings, the panel’s top Democrat, released hundreds of pages of transcripts today of an interview the committee conducted with a self-described “conservative Republican” IRS nonprofit screening manager in Cincinnati who says one of his employees was the first to single out a tea party group applying for a tax exemption.

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And he said he agreed with the decision.

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“In this particular case, it was apparent that there was not enough information that was allowing [redacted name] to make … the proper determination,” he said. “I told him at that point in time I agreed with this thinking, and to give me the particulars of the case, and that I would elevate that issue to my area manager.”

Though the transcript doesn’t reveal the name of the interview subject, John Shafer is the only screening manager the committee has questioned.

This is the first full transcript of a congressional interview with an IRS employee to be released since the agency became engulfed in scandal last month. The move is bound to intensify divisions between Cummings and Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) that have surfaced in recent weeks.

“I am deeply disappointed that ranking member Cummings has decided to broadly disseminate and post online a 205-page transcript that will serve as a roadmap for IRS officials to navigate investigative interviews with Congress,” Issa said in a statement. “After unsuccessfully trying to convince the American people that IRS officials in Washington did not play a role in inappropriate scrutiny of tea party groups and declaring on national television that the case of IRS targeting was ‘solved’ and Congress should ‘move on,’ this looks like flailing.”

Cummings has accused Issa of cherry picking loaded details gleaned from the committee’s investigation to back up the GOP argument that the IRS targeting practice was orchestrated from Washington. Issa released selected transcripts as recently as this weekend to back up that contention.

In a letter to Issa today, Cummings said the interview with the screening manager throws that theory into doubt.

The transcript “debunks conspiracy theories about how the IRS first started reviewing these cases,” he wrote.

Cummings has threatened to release broad swaths of transcripts to offer the public a fuller understanding of the committee’s probe — a move Issa said would “undermine the integrity” of the investigation.

The latest transcripts were released on the same day that a CNN/ORC International survey found that 47 percent of Americans believe “senior White House officials” ordered the IRS to single out conservative groups — a 10 percent increase from last month.

Investigators have found no evidence suggesting the Obama administration was in any way involved, though interviews with other Cincinnati employees shared with POLITICO suggest the IRS headquarters played a central role in carrying out the targeting after it began — contrary to what the IRS argued when the scandal erupted last month.

Shafer said an official in the exempt organizations division — which oversees tax-exempt nonprofits — in Washington was “pleased with the decision to elevate this case.”

Shafer told Oversight he did not believe the White House was involved in the IRS screening.

“I do not believe that the screening of these cases had anything to do other than consistency and identifying issues that needed to have further development,” he said.

He also said he didn’t think any of his colleagues were singling out conservatives because of political bias.

When asked if he was “aware of political motivations behind the screenings, centralizing and development of tea party cases,” he responded: “I’m not aware of that.”


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Why all the secrecy about his identity? Why do the facts not match this mysterious testimony? Is he in the Witness Protection Program?
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Why all the secrecy about his identity? Why do the facts not match this mysterious testimony? Is he in the Witness Protection Program?
Because Issa redacted the name. Cummings wants to release the name. But, as the article states, only one CINCY supervisor has been questioned so through the process of elimination the name is inferred. Seems curious to me that the Dems have to release testimony over Republican objections when the narrative has been that the Dems have something to hide. Very curious indeed. Also, Issa has become very quiet.
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Because Issa redacted the name. Cummings wants to release the name. But, as the article states, only one CINCY supervisor has been questioned so through the process of elimination the name is inferred. Seems curious to me that the Dems have to release testimony over Republican objections when the narrative has been that the Dems have something to hide. Very curious indeed. Also, Issa has become very quiet.
Have you seen what was redacted on the released transcripts?
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[QUOTE]. IRS Official: White House Was Not Involved In Targeting Of Conservative Groups

WASHINGTON -- In a rebuke to House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) has released the full transcript of a key interview with an IRS employee at the heart of the agency's scandal.

The 200-page transcript sheds additional light on the decision by the IRS to screen out tea party groups applying for tax-exempt status during the months and years leading up to the 2012 elections.

Republican and Democratic committee staffers interviewed IRS official John Shafer on June 6 about the agency's decision to scrutinize a tea party group's application for tax-exempt 501(c)(4) status. Shafer, who identified himself as "a conservative Republican" and said he'd worked for the IRS since 1992, said that he and a fellow screener initially flagged a tea party group and continued to do so with subsequent applications in order to maintain consistency in the process.

Throughout much of the interview, Shafer describes the mundane bureaucratic challenges of dealing with incoming applications for nonprofit status. He said his team flagged the first tea party application because it appeared to be a high-profile case, and he wanted to make sure all high-profile cases received similar attention.

"What I'm talking here is that if we end up with four applications coming into the group that are pretty similar, and we assign them to four different agents, we don't want four different determinations," he said. "It's just not good business. It's not good customer service."

Asked plainly, "do you have any reason to believe that anyone in the White House was involved in the decision to screen Tea Party cases?" Shafer replied, "I have no reason to believe that."

"Do you have any reason to believe that anyone in the White House was involved in the decisions to centralize the review of Tea Party cases?" he was asked. "I have no reason to believe that," he replied.

Asked if he had "ever communicated with [then IRS] Commissioner Shulman about the screening of Tea Party cases?" he replied, "I have not."

Interviewers also asked Shafer if he told his screeners to specifically pull Tea Party cases.

"Again, I was not asking them for those kind of cases," he said. "[I]f I would have directed them to pull our Tea Party cases, little Susie's Tea Party would have been pulled and it wasn't." [/QUOTE]x

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Something is not aligning.

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Holly Paz, who until recently was a top deputy in the division that handles applications for tax-exempt status, told congressional investigators she reviewed 20 to 30 applications. Her assertion contradicts initial claims by the agency that a small group of agents working in an office in Cincinnati were solely responsible for mishandling the applications.

Paz, however, provided no evidence that senior IRS officials ordered agents to target conservative groups or that anyone in the Obama administration outside the IRS was involved.

Instead, Paz described an agency in which IRS supervisors in Washington worked closely with agents in the field but didn’t fully understand what those agents were doing. Paz said agents in Cincinnati openly talked about handling “tea party” cases, but she thought the term was merely shorthand for all applications from groups that were politically active — conservative and liberal.

Paz said dozens of tea party applications sat untouched for more than a year while field agents waited for guidance from Washington on how to handle them. At the time, she said, Washington officials thought the agents in Cincinnati were processing the cases.
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