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Old August 22nd, 2013, 06:36 AM   #1
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Georgia school clerk talks down shooter

Apparently Wayne LaPierre is wrong about some things. The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is not a good guy with a gun. As this woman just proved so bravely:
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A black-clad gunman who marched into a Georgia elementary school “was ready to die” before a brave school clerk convinced him to surrender to police.
The suspect, Michael Brandon Hill, burst into the front office of Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy near Atlanta and began barking orders to two staff members inside about 1 p.m. Tuesday, ABC World News reported.
“I’m not playing,” the 20-year-old man allegedly said. “This is for real. This is not a show.”
Antoinette Tuff, a bookkeeper for the Decatur school, told the news station that she was with one other staff member when Hill walked into the office with an AK-47 and other weapons.
“He had a look on him that he was willing to kill,” Tuff recalled.
The crazed gunman then told Tuff to call a local news station, WSB-TV, because he wanted them to start filming as “police officers die.”
“He was going to end his life and take all the cops and everybody with him,” Tuff said. “He said he didn’t have any reason to live and that he knew he was going to die.”
During the call with the news station, Hill fired a warning shot.
Once the call was over, Hill — who police suspect slipped past security by following an authorized visitor — started for a schoolyard filled with frightened children.
“I called him back and kept talking to him, to keep him calm and stay inside with me,” the heroic Tuff said. “Because I knew that if he got outside, he was going to start shooting the kids. He had already shot a round off in the office with me.”

Cops suddenly arrived and Hill squeezed off at least six rounds at officers before they returned fire, shattering a glass window in the school office where Tuff and the other staff member were being held captive.
That’s when Tuff tried to reason with the gunman and convince him to surrender. She talked about her divorce after 33 years of marriage, and the “roller coaster” of opening her own business.
“I told him, ‘Okay, we all have situations in our lives,’” she recalled. “It was going to be okay. If I could recover, he could, too.”
When she saw Hill was starting to absorb what she was telling him, she urged him to stop shooting.
“I told him to put the guns down on the table, empty his pockets,” she said.


After Hill piled a cache of weapons and ammunition onto the counter, Tuff told him to lay on the floor.
“He put his hands behind his back and he said, ‘Tell them I’m on the floor,’” said Tuff, who then alerted the officers that Hill had given up.
Hill was cuffed at the scene and later charged with aggravated assault on a police officer, terroristic threats and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. A court date was not immediately scheduled.
Hill’s brother, Timothy Hill, told NBC News that his sibling “was bipolar and suffered from ADD.”
Michael Hill was arrested in nearby Henry County in March for making terroristic threats, a felony, the news station reported Wednesday.


Timothy Hill said the arrest stemmed from his brother threatening to kill him during an argument in December. Court records show that Hill pleaded guilty and was later sentenced to three years’ probation and anger management counseling, NBC reported.
Michael Thurmond, superintendent of DeKalb County schools, lauded the school’s faculty and authorities who stayed calm and got all of the children out of the school unharmed.
“It’s a blessed day, all of our children are safe,” Thurmond told reporters. “This was a highly professional response on the ground by DeKalb County employees assisted by law enforcement.”
The elementary school, like many schools since the massacre of 26 people at Connecticut’s Sandy Hook Elementary, has security that requires visitors to be buzzed in through a set of double doors.
“I took (my son) to school this morning and had to be buzzed in,” said Jonessia White, the mother of a kindergartner.

“So, I’m wondering how the guy got into the door.”
Investigators believe Hill walked in the school — where about 870 children are enrolled — by following an authorized visitor.
“I don’t know how this could happen at this school,” said Jackie Zamora, 61, the grandmother of a 6-year-old boy who was inside the school during the tense standoff.
“There’s so much security.”
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I just heard the 9-11 call this morning and heard this amazing brave caring woman.

But why does this story have to tainted with your warped hyper partisan bullshit? Is your warped and distorted claim that citizens don't need guns to protect themselves from criminals; we can just talk to them???!!!!

How did that work for an Australian jogger who was murdered gangland style by three black teenagers for doing nothing more than jogging while white?

The irony for the loony left is that the incident involving a semi-auto rifle in Georgia resulted in no deaths involving a white guy at a predominately black school, but the murder of the jogger involved a .22 handgun; the more common weapon of choice by thugs and criminals.

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By the way, the loony left clamor about gun laws is once again muted by the fact that this story suggests the perp was a convicted felon. Felons cannot buy guns. Once again proof that all the gun laws in the world only do ONE thing; disarm law abiding citizens.
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I dunno, this woman says she was prayin' the whole time. she could be in trouble with her union or school rules
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I dunno, this woman says she was prayin' the whole time. she could be in trouble with her union or school rules
You have to admire her for her calm collected actions and compassion towards this poor sick moron.

He should pray for her as he sits in prison pondering his good fortune for having a God fearing woman like this talk him down and preventing him from causing further unwarranted mayhem.

I would have celebrated her just as much had she pulled a .40 S&W and put him down with a single shot.

The good news here is that this good woman is alive to tell her story instead of laying in a puddle of blood. In CT, that nutbag wouldnt have hesitated gunning her down.
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The point I made was that sometimes you don't need a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. In direct counter to Wayne LaPierre's claims. That is all.
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Old August 22nd, 2013, 08:11 AM   #7
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The point I made was that sometimes you don't need a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. In direct counter to Wayne LaPierre's claims. That is all.
Your nose is growing again. That wasn't the point; the point you and the other anti-gun whack jobs are trying to make is this claptrap about how we should revoke the 2nd ammendment and make it easier for our citizens to fall prey to gun toting nuts who want to rob and kill us.

Wayne LaPierre isn't part of this story; it is a part of the wacked out anti-gun nut lobby talking points.
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Apparently Wayne LaPierre is wrong about some things. The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is not a good guy with a gun. As this woman just proved so bravely:

Read more: ?He was willing to kill?: Georgia*elementary school clerk recalls terrifying moments before she convinced gunman to surrender* - NY Daily News
Hopefully, this woman will be decorated for her devotion to the children. There are not to many people, under that kind of situation that could have held their composer and used commonsense to handle the situation.
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Your nose is growing again. That wasn't the point; the point you and the other anti-gun whack jobs are trying to make is this claptrap about how we should revoke the 2nd ammendment and make it easier for our citizens to fall prey to gun toting nuts who want to rob and kill us.

Wayne LaPierre isn't part of this story; it is a part of the wacked out anti-gun nut lobby talking points.
You really are crazy. How are you going to tell me what my point was? The point was what I said it was. That it is not only another person with a gun that stops a bad guy with a gun. Period. And requiring more stringent checks in regards to who can buy guns legally is not revoking the second amendment. Way to overreact and again misrepresent the reality of the side you disagree with. That's your M.O. though, and what people like you probably are being paid to do online. Distorting and misrepresenting what your opposing party says and does is the only way those who think like you can actually convince people that you're right. It's sad actually.
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Hopefully, this woman will be decorated for her devotion to the children. There are not to many people, under that kind of situation that could have held their composer and used commonsense to handle the situation.
She is a truly an amazing human being with a LOT of guts and grace. The school is fortunate to have people like that working for them.
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