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Old September 8th, 2013, 07:15 PM   #31
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Really, prove that it is fictional.

At one time there was not physical evidence the earth was round but now we know it is.

So you support the scientific method fo the Flat Earth society..
Care to explain how, since the earth has ALWAYS been round, there was a point in time where there was no physical evidence for it?

Keep surprising me.
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Old September 8th, 2013, 07:57 PM   #32
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Yes, amazing grace from the Great Rewarder and Punisher in the Sky.

There's at least one more theory on eternal hell, that it is an invention of a blasphemous church that married herself to secular government, an invention effectively used to keep people in line, doing what they're told to do, a pure fabrication because the victory of Christ was a complete victory; all will be saved; all will experience eternal life.

Other theories may exist.
But isn't your opposition just to the word "eternal"? After all, the New Testament spoke of hell as a place of punishment long before the church married itself to secular government. So God IS a great rewarder and punisher; you just don't believe the punishment is eternal. Correct?
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Old September 8th, 2013, 08:02 PM   #33
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Care to explain how, since the earth has ALWAYS been round, there was a point in time where there was no physical evidence for it?

Keep surprising me.
OKAY you believe that the earth was onetime flat. Go for it.

Nuff said.
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Old September 8th, 2013, 08:05 PM   #34
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Yes, and all you have to do is to prove the universe was intelligently planned, with its actualization a conscious act by the Bible's God.

That is a positive, too.
that's a subjective question, you can only prove that to yourself. there is no objective argument.
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Yes, and all you have to do is to prove the universe was intelligently planned, with its actualization a conscious act by the Bible's God.

That is a positive, too.
If you actually sat down and thought it out, really thought it out, the false god of evolution that is, you might hear a quiet voice tell you.

Th entire evolution 'science' is a bigger house of cards than the global warming fiasco. Same power behind it though, if you catch my drift.

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that's a subjective question, you can only prove that to yourself. there is no objective argument.
I have proven it to my self to I a point I have come to believe that the universe was not an accident.

To me it takes more faith to believe it is all an accident, than by design.

I have always said, I may be wrong, but the evidence that the universe began on it's own.. is much to random of a chance.
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I am not in sync with the original challenge for proof. proving the bible is fiction is not the same as proving it isn't true.
The Bible has not been proved true, therefore, no onus is upon anyone to prove it's not true.
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But isn't your opposition just to the word "eternal"? After all, the New Testament spoke of hell as a place of punishment long before the church married itself to secular government. So God IS a great rewarder and punisher; you just don't believe the punishment is eternal. Correct?
Absolutely my opposition is to the concept of eternal hell, a concept that hands victory to darkness.
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that's a subjective question, you can only prove that to yourself. there is no objective argument.
Exactly.
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Absolutely my opposition is to the concept of eternal hell, a concept that hands victory to darkness.
Then evil will triumph in the end.
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