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Old September 9th, 2013, 08:58 AM   #1
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US Russia Call Syria To Put CW Under International Control Syria Says Yes

Daily Kos: US, Russia call on Syria to put chemical weapons under international control ... and Syria says okay


So Secretary of State John Kerry says Syria should put its chemical weapons under international control ...

Secretary of State John Kerry said on Monday that if President Bashar al-Assad wants to avert an attack on Syria, he should hand over all of his chemical weapons within one week.

Asked if there were steps the Syrian president could take to avert an American-led attack, Mr. Kerry said, “Sure, he could turn over every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week — turn it over, all of it, without delay and allow the full and total accounting.”
... and then the Russian Foreign Minister endorses Kerry's position ...

“We don’t know whether Syria will agree with this, but if the establishment of international control over chemical weapons in the country will prevent attacks, then we will immediately begin work with Damascus,” Mr. Lavrov said at the Foreign Ministry. “And we call on the Syrian leadership to not only agree to setting the chemical weapons storage sites under international control, but also to their subsequent destruction.”

... and a couple of hours later, Syria's Foreign Minister says Syria would agree to hand over its chemical weapons:

Syria welcomes Russia's proposal for Damascus to put its chemical weapons under international control: Foreign Minister Walid Al-Moualem
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Presumably, the big question here will be whether the administration believes Syria and Russia are simply giving lip service to Kerry's ultimatum, or if they are actually serious about complying with it. Before Syria issued its reaction, an anonymous "senior administration official" told NBC's Peter Alexander that the Russian offer wasn't enough to get the administration to change course:

The Russians are using this as yet another delay tactic to protect the Assad regime and prevent them from being held accountable for gassing its own people [...] We're making our own decisions about a military response on our own timeline, period.

But even though that statement says the U.S. will continue forward on its own timeline, if Russia were actually able to get Syria to relinquish its chemical weapons, it's hard to imagine a scenario where the administration would proceed with an attack. Of course, that's the best case scenario.

The flip-side is this: What happens if Russia and Syria say they are in the process of handing over weapons, but don't take action quickly enough to satisfy the administration? Would the U.S. attack Syria at the same time that Russia was claiming to disarm it of chemical weapons?
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If this is true Obama would be a fool to go ahead with a limited surgical attack, he has nothing to gain and everything to loose, but then again, his ego has no limits.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 09:52 AM   #4
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Putin Makes Points

Putin is a thug, but a smart thug. And in this case, offering up something that will likely please the bulk of the international community while making O look like an idiot (not that he needs help from Putin in this category).

First there is the Russian naval station in Syria. But I continue to believe that there is some economic under current to this whole Syria thing. Coincidence that a massive Russian pipeline runs through Syria ?? na ...

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Russia has asked Syria to put its chemical weapons stockpiles under international control and then have them destroyed, in an attempt to avoid US military strikes
And Al Jazeera reports Syria welcomed the Russian initiative.

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All presidents are thugs, some have more talent in hiding it.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 10:42 AM   #6
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If this is true Obama would be a fool to go ahead with a limited surgical attack, he has nothing to gain and everything to loose, but then again, his ego has no limits.
This is a rapidly developing situation. To make any knee jerk judgments at this point is a sign of intellectual ineptitude. But i'll consider the sources in response. The only people that can come out this looking like fools are conservatives who will use something as serious as this to play political gamesmanship. But like I said, i'll consider the sources here.
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Sorry I Leroyed you Skews. Mods, pls merge my Putin thread with this one.

The one point in my thread missed here so far is that I think Putin gained some international cred with an apparently great peaceful compromise solution.

The problem as I see it is that it assumes that it is the government that controls all the CW stock. But would that be de-facto admission that the government did the gassing?
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The U.S. will take a "hard look" at a Russian proposal for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to put his nation's chemical weapons under international control, but "we have some serious skepticism" about whether al-Assad would follow through, said State Department deputy spokeswoman Marie Harf.
She told reporters today that al-Assad has previously resisted efforts to get rid of chemical weapons and this development could be a stalling tactic.
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Sorry I Leroyed you Skews. Mods, pls merge my Putin thread with this one.

The one point in my thread missed here so far is that I think Putin gained some international cred with an apparently great peaceful compromise solution.

The problem as I see it is that it assumes that it is the government that controls all the CW stock. But would that be de-facto admission that the government did the gassing?
I sincerely hope this is an effort by honest brokers. This is a very serious situation that will have grievous consequences if not handled properly. Putting CW under lock and key, and avoiding military action is something any sane person would have to celebrate.
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I sincerely hope this is an effort by honest brokers. This is a very serious situation that will have grievous consequences if not handled properly. Putting CW under lock and key, and avoiding military action is something any sane person would have to celebrate.
I'm hoping for the same thing; Skews. But we do have to see if this is just "lip service" by Putin.
I'm just wondering why Russia waited until now to start sounding sensible?
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