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Old September 17th, 2013, 09:05 AM   #1
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. Why Conservative Americans Admire Putin

By Xavier Lerma

America's president has torn his land into a thousand pieces. The propaganda media machine covers Obama's trail of blood and shows the president in a good way without a word of dissent. During his time in office there has been a boiling pot in America that began with the Tea Party in 2010 that took back the House of Representatives. The original Tea Party of 1773 protested the British government's high taxes on the American colonies. The modern Tea Party's success was short lived by Obama's illegal interference. In addition, these American Christian conservatives feel their voice ignored by the 2 major political powers in America: the Democrats and the Republicans. They feel betrayed and helpless in a land turned upside down. Slowly they began to notice President Vladimir Putin's actions and deemed him worthy of admiration and respect by all conservatives.

When Obama won again in 2012 there were claims of fraud and stolen elections. All was done electronically at the voting booth. For the first time paper ballots were not used ensuring Obama's victory. People claimed they clicked one name but Obama's name would only show. Where was the Tea Party? It had so much power in 2010. Even other conservative groups were nowhere to be found. Only some radio and internet outlets spoke of the fraud and stolen elections. Obama's logic prevailed.

This year it was proven that Obama's regime openly went after Tea Party leaders and other members with the IRS whose power it is to impose higher taxes and force audits upon them. Now things began to be clear as to why the conservative movement seemed powerless. An American housewife wrote me, "In the land of the "free" and the "brave," we are not permitted to voice our opinion publicly (we are simply the invisible, pathetic tax-payers or tributaries of the present regime)."

After the Great Patriotic War, Americans looked at Russians as atheists and communists. Russians were viewed as intelligent but liars and devils not to be trusted. When Solzhenitsyn came to America he was looked upon as a hero from the Soviet Union by the American press. The US media later portrayed him in a negative way calling him na´ve and ignorant of American society even though Solzhenitsyn was only pointing out the truth known by many conservative Americans. His 1978 speech in this video in America at the Harvard University is not only true about America but prophetic as well. Solzhenitsyn knew communism was infecting society and saw its effect. He also saw "Destructive and irresponsible freedom" in America.

Solzhenitsyn says in the USA, "Society appears to have little defense against the abyss of human decadence, such as, for example, misuse of liberty for moral violence against young people, motion pictures full of pornography, crime and horror. It is considered to be part of freedom and theoretically counter-balanced by the young people's right not to look or not to accept. Life organized legalistically has thus shown its inability to defend itself against the corrosion of evil." The US media made sure his words were ignored by many and society has become much worse in the last 30 years in America.

At another time he warns not only Americans but Russians as well, "We should teach future generations so they can avoid the mistakes of those who turn away from God. Otherwise, they will suffer the same fate as those who were murdered." Many conservative Americans understood Solzhenitsyn as they knew America was changing for the worse at that time. Yet, these American minds were always persuaded to see Russians as their enemy.

During the 70's for example, on TV they showed the Victory Day parade from Moscow as the "May Day" parade as described by ABC, CBC and NBC news. They would stand in front of St Basil's cathedral and firmly state in a loud and pompous voice, "Here we are in front of the Kremlin... in this parade the Soviet Union is proud to show the world their military power". They never knew that St Basil was not the Kremlin but they managed to make Americans think that Russians were arrogantly threatening them with world domination.

Alexis de Tocqueville saw America in its youth and wrote in his Democracy in America, "I sought for the key to the greatness and genius of America in her harbors...; in her fertile fields and boundless forests; in her rich mines and vast world commerce; in her public school system and institutions of learning. I sought for it in her democratic Congress and in her matchless Constitution. Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." During the Cold War one American was able to see Russia's true spirituality; "The secret of her genius and power."

Reagan turned America's eyes towards Russia's goodness when he said on May 30, 1988 in Moscow, at the Danilov Monastery: "There is a beautiful passage that I'd just like to read, if I may. It's from one of this country's great writers and believers, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, about the faith that is as elemental to this land as the dark and fertile soil. He wrote: "When you travel the byroads of central Russia, you begin to understand the secret of the pacifying Russian countryside. It is in the churches. They lift their bell-towers-graceful, shapely, all different-high over mundane timber and thatch. From villages that are cut off and invisible to each other, they soar to the same heaven.... The evening chimes used to ring out, floating over the villages, fields, and woods, reminding men that they must abandon trivial concerns of this world and give time and thought to eternity."

When conservatives elected their own champion in 1980 the world seemed right again. President Ronald Reagan admired Solzhenitsyn. Reagan called the Soviet Union the evil empire but many forget he also called communism in America evil as well. He warned his fellow Americans, "If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under." In 1983 President Ronald Reagan declared that year as the national Year of the Bible. He said, "Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face." Also saying, "Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged."

Reagan was trying to bring God back into the public. Already laws were established to keep prayer out of schools and nativity scenes banned. Even the 10 commandments were forbidden in many public places. He knew that the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, "separation of church and state", meant that the Church must be protected from the state not as the American communists defined it as religion prohibited in public places.

Americans watch Obama destroying their own country and the world. They do not want war in Syria or Iran. With no hero to save them they become frustrated and look to Putin. Although they hear the same mantra from their TV that Putin is a dictator, Putin is evil, Putin is a murderer; from the internet they see him kneeling at Christ's Holy Sepulcher which Obama never does when visiting Jerusalem. They see him going to church when they know Obama favors Muslims who attack Christians and their churches. They see Putin establishing laws to protect the church and laws against homosexuality. This they admire and this brings them hope. Hope in their upside down world where there is a leader willing to follow Christ. They have no Reagan but they see Putin whom they wish was their president. Here are a few examples of the thousands of emails I have received:

"One of my fantasies is to kidnap Vladimir Putin and make him the leader of the US." - Jim. "The fact that Putin allows Christianity is an AMAZING thing, while Christians, true ones, are persecuted in anti christ America." - Robert. "Putin has encouraged the nation of Russia to return to spiritual values, whereas the US. is going in the opposite direction. " - Glen . "It is a shame that it takes someone from Russia to speak the truth that our media refuses to do. The reason they don't is because they are communists themselves. " - Steve. "Obama is definitely a communist, I have believed this all along. Ronald Reagan is turning over in his grave." - John. "I used to live in a country where strong conservative morale character meant something. No longer and the days of darkness here in the USA have begun. " - Loy. "Putin seems like he is really trying to lead and do the right thing for his country. You are lucky. Obama is not done destroying my country." - Loy

"We are witnessing the slow decline and eventual destruction of the United States, as was the case for the Roman and Greek Empires. When history is recorded of the deeds, actions, and accomplishments of great leaders, President Putin will stand tall because he dared to uphold the virtues of the Christian faith and civilization itself. " - Richard Dixon

Americans can almost say like Tocqueville , "In America (France) I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in Russia (America) I found they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country."

If you still do not understand why American Christians admire Putin then see the video my US Marine friend made below. All agree with what Putin said and did in the video and prefer him or someone like him as their president. American conservatives hear only lies from their TV but what they see on the internet from Russia regarding Putin is true because Christ guides them to see the Truth. The Holy Spirit does not fail them and inspires them to see Russia. They know a tree by its fruit. Putin obviously respects the Christian Church but Obama and their American government does not.
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SALLY KOHN SEPTEMBER 8, 2011
By today's Tea Party standards, the Republican icon would have been a Leninist-Marxist-socialist America hater.


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It's beyond ironic that the pack of extremist ideologues running in the Republican primary debated last night at the Ronald Reagan Library. After all, as Senator Lindsay Graham, a Republican from South Carolina, recently observed: "Ronald Reagan would have a hard time getting elected as a Republican" in today's party. That's because, at least by Tea Party standards, Reagan was kind of liberal -- a fact that seemed to escape the GOP candidates claiming his mantle. Here are the top five ways the real Reagan would have landed in hot water with Republicans beholden to the Tea Party.

1. Reagan Gave Amnesty to Undocumented Immigrants

When the debate last night turned to immigration, John Huntsman said that if "President Reagan was here he would speak to the American people and he would lay out in hopeful, optimistic terms" how to get to positive immigration reform. It was a fitting homage from the race's only moderate.

After all, when conservatives today complain that a stringent legalization program requiring all sorts of hurdles and fines in exchange for citizenship is equivalent to amnesty, they forget they're swiping at The Gipper's record. It was Ronald Reagan who passed the law making any immigrant who had entered the country before 1982 eligible for real amnesty -- no fines included. The bill helped millions of new Americans gain authorized residency in the United States.

In his farewell address as president, Reagan envisioned America as a city on a hill: "And if there had to be city walls," he said. "The walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here." Strong words from the idol of those who now want to build even taller, electrified walls.

2. Reagan Shored Up Social Security

Last Rick Perry reprised his attack on Social Security, calling the program that has kept millions of seniors out of poverty a "monstrous lie." But if Perry is going to keep insisting that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme, that would make Ronald Reagan its Bernie Madoff.

After boasting of his plans to privatize Social Security so that "those who can make better provisions for themselves" be allowed to do so, Reagan bailed out the program to the tune of $165 billion. In fact, Republicans can thank Reagan that they even have a Social Security to rail against.

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3. Reagan Was a Union Leader

Before running for office, Reagan was a union leader. He ran the Screen Actors Guild and boasted of being the first head to lead it in a strike. Once in the White House, Reagan said, "Collective bargaining ... has played a major role in America's economic miracle. Unions represent some of the freest institutions in this land. There are few finer examples of participatory democracy to be found anywhere." True, Reagan is famous for busting the Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization (Patco) union, but he supported the right of government workers to form unions and bargain collectively -- and extended these rights to public-sector workers when he was governor of California. And not only did Reagan win Patco's endorsement for his 1980 presidential campaign; The New York Times reported that in pre-strike negotiations with the air traffic controllers, Reagan "directed his negotiators to go beyond his legal authority to offer controllers a pay raise before their strike -- the first time a president had ever offered so much to a federal employees' union."

4. Reagan Opposed Weaponization

In his memoirs, Reagan wrote that he dreamed of "a world free of nuclear weapons." During his presidency, conservatives within his own party accused him of "appeasing" the Soviets in signing a nuclear non-proliferation treaty with Mikhail Gorbachev. Following the negotiations, Paul Wyerich, a leader of the New Right, wrote, "Reagan is a weakened president, weakened in spirit as well as clout." Yes, Reagan redeemed himself with conservatives by presiding over the greatest military buildup in U.S. history and, in so doing, increased the nation's deficit by from $700 billion to $3 trillion -- more than any president since George Washington combined. But by refusing to send more troops into Beirut in 1983 when Hezbollah murdered 243 U.S. service members, critiquing Israel's preventative strike on an Iraqi nuclear reactor, and seeking to draw down the weapons cache worldwide, Reagan never quite fit the image of a right-wing hawk.

5. Reagan Raised Taxes

All of the candidates in last night's debate pushed the conservative Kool Aid that tax cuts will save America's economy. For kicks, Mitt Romney went a step further, endorsing tax cuts for the rich while complaining that poor people who don't pay taxes aren't doing their fair share to support the troops.

But when he was governor of California, Reagan "signed into law the largest tax increase in the history of any state" until that point in an effort to balance the budget (How would that sound to todays' GOP candidates, all of whom indicated they would not raise taxes by a single dollar even if it were offset with $10 in spending cuts). Once president, Reagan raised taxes seven out of eight of his years in office -- including four times in just two years.

Basically, Reagan was a giant disappointment for arch-conservatives. He did little to tighten restrictions against abortion as president and actually passed pro-choice legislation as governor of California. He grew the size of the federal government tremendously, adding 60,000 new government jobs (versus, for instance, Bill Clinton, who shrank government payrolls by 373,000). As governor of California, Reagan supported and ultimately expanded Medi-Cal, which is the nation's largest Medicaid program. Both as governor and president, he was one of the most proactive presidents in restricting smog emissions and protecting wilderness. And after his press secretary was shot during an assassination attempt against him, the president came out in support of stricter gun-control laws.
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Why, because we see attributes in Putin that are absent in Obimbo? We may detest Putin's overall power over his nation but, the one thing he isn't is a sniveling little coward.
We witnessed Obimbo doing an about-face on his own Sec.of State and embarrassing him. We then witnessed Obimbo running to the Congress to bail him out of his own doing. Congress was not about to sanction this attack against the wishes of the American public with an election looming. Fact is, it took an enemy of the U.S. to save Obimbo from himself. Sad, very sad!
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Why, because we see attributes in Putin that are absent in Obimbo? We may detest Putin's overall power over his nation but, the one thing he isn't is a sniveling little coward.
We witnessed Obimbo doing an about-face on his own Sec.of State and embarrassing him. We then witnessed Obimbo running to the Congress to bail him out of his own doing. Congress was not about to sanction this attack against the wishes of the American public with an election looming. Fact is, it took an enemy of the U.S. to save Obimbo from himself. Sad, very sad!


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[QUOTE]. Putin may have just punked the Teaparty



Update 2: Syria just announced they will sign the agreement and join the chemical weapons ban treaty. It’s all over but the details now folks. Call it eleventy-billion dimensional chess or dumb luck, but Obama just scored the biggest foreign policy victory since Geronimo was shot in the head by acting tough while Teaparty Republicans joined liberal wimps.

Update: Senate is said to be drafting new authorization proposal tailored to latest developments that has bipartisan support.

Yesterday events moved fast as Russian diplomats announced the outlines of a possible deal to store and destroy Syria’s chemical weapons, a move which would avert a US military strike. This evening President Obama will make his case before the American people, tea leaves say the WH will not waiver in the need to brandish a credible military threat to encourage Syria to comply. Early this morning US time, Syria appeared to accept the proposal in principle. All well and good, every one is happy! Except of course … the right is facing a huge problem: America may have prevailed and the world may end up a tiny bit safer without the US having to fire a single shot. First overnight developments:

NBC News — Syria confirmed it would accept a Russian-brokered proposal to place its chemical weapons under international control Tuesday, just hours after France announced it would seek a U.N. Security Council resolution seeking a similar plan.

Syria’s Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem told Russia’s lower parliament that Damascus had agreed to the plan in order to “remove the grounds for American aggression,” according to a report by the Interfax state news agency. … The comments added to the international momentum behind the proposal, which has already been endorsed by Iran and China and cautiously welcomed by Britain, France and Germany.

Why would a peaceful solution hailed by the entire world as a positive breakthrough be a problem for the usual suspects? Because a big foreign policy victory for the US and the world would be a big foreign policy victory for Obama. Which means it’s a giant letdown for Teaparty Republicans who thought for sure taking the risk of playing dove would pay dividends. It really is that simple. They desperately need this to fall through and, just in case it doesn’t, they’ll have to try and cook up an angle that somehow makes them look good. Which is a damn near impossible task at this point.

Consider that if Obama had not been a hard-ass on this, the Teaparty would have demanded military action in Syria while gleefully calling him the appeaser-in-chief. But the President did go full hawk, which meant the Teaparty had to take the opposite dovish position against the hated black President. By doing so they strained their own party, split with the traditional warmongers, and were forced to side with the liberal base. That was not a comfortable place at all, but they thought it would work to their advantage. Now they might end up looking foolish and having to hope and pray for US failure. How to play it?

There is no play, if this deal goes through they’re fucked. Getting Syria to turn over their CW in the middle of a brutal civil war would be a bigger foreign policy success as far as the world is concerned than hitting bin Laden.

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I often wondered why they chose Red for all their Standards!




I think we Libs/Progressives need to shun them.

After all.....WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!!




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They choose the BLVD instead of the ST.

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Do you know why republicans are red and democrats are blue?

It's because back in the day the democrats got pissed at being red, they said it was far too representative of russia and communism. (since many of their policies still reflect socialism/communism, it was a bad rep for them) so the republicans said "fine, we'll be red, now quite your bitchin."
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