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Old February 28th, 2014, 05:44 AM   #1
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Banning Patriotic Shirts

This is absolutely ridiculous and it completely ignores freedom of speech. I just bet that they allow Cinco de Mayo shirts. They should cancel the celebration....we are not Mexico. Or are we? We have so many illegals here...maybe they should make it a mandatory state holiday?

WHERE IS THE TOLERANCE?

"A federal appeals court ruled on Thursday that school administrators acted appropriately when they asked students wearing American flag shirts to turn them inside out during the school’s Cinco de Mayo celebration. The court says the threat of racial violence outweighed the students’ freedom of expression. Latinos should remember they are in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...that trumps any other country.

The AP reports that the California court cited the history of violence between white and Latino students on that day. Administrations expressed concern that seeing the American flag would stir up tension among the Latino students. These issues were deemed sufficient cause to limit the students’ rights.

William Becker, one of the lawyers for the students, says he plans to appeal the decision, and would take it as far as the Supreme Court if necessary. He made an apt point about the court’s judgement:

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“The 9th Circuit upheld the rights of Mexican students celebrating a holiday of another country over U.S. student proudly supporting this country,” Becker said.

Instead of forcing school kids to change their clothing, shouldn’t this issue of violence be addressed? If just seeing an American flag causes other students to get violent, there is a larger problem at hand. If violence had occurred, the blame should not have been placed on the students who were purely exercising their freedom of expression. This is just another case of people blaming things in people’s environment for the causes of violence, instead of expecting and demanding that people exercise personal responsibility and show tolerance for different opinions.

As all of these students, regardless of heritage, are living in America, shouldn’t they be (at the very least) tolerant of the American flag? (As in, not cause violence?) And since 100% of these students benefit from the luxury of living in America, shouldn’t they all show the flag a little more respect?

Did school administrators have just cause, or were their actions purely political? This is not the first time that Americans expressing their patriotism have been asked to remove a flag or change their clothing.

This just goes to a larger issue: is the U.S. government and the institutions under its authority truly working for a harmonious multi-cultural and diverse society that respects the sacrifices, traditions, and political institutions that made America great? Or is it allowing the nation’s fabric to be pulled apart at the seams by being too willing to let immigrants from less free and less prosperous nations (or else they wouldn’t be here) implement their ideologies in our political system?

It is not wrong to stand up for the institutions that made the United States a free and wealthy nation – and a desirable one for millions around the world to immigrate to and live in. We need to keep America a free country for everyone who lives in it – immigrants included."



Court Rules That School May Ban Patriotic Shirts 'For Safety' | Independent Journal Review
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Old February 28th, 2014, 05:49 AM   #2
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If a parochial school student wears a flag t-shirt to school instead of conforming to the pre-authorized uniform dress code and the school takes action, would they be wrong as well ?
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As a person who spent 8 years in a boarding school, and worked very very hard to get rid of clothing and hair requirements/prohibitions, I'm against a school stopping any student from wearing anything whatsoever, as long as it does not DENIGRATE another student.

Wearing a U.S. flag shirt on Cinco de Maya is NOT denigration.
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If a parochial school student wears a flag t-shirt to school instead of conforming to the pre-authorized uniform dress code and the school takes action, would they be wrong as well ?
Are parochial schools private schools? The core issue is public schools. A Court told public school students they don't have a right to wear a Flag tea-shirt in a publicly funded school. Not only is it an affront to the first amendment, there is a racist issue that must be addressed.
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What a thing to teach people. I'm not even American and this infuriates me. No one should ever be forbidden to show pride in their country when they are in their country. If the Mexicans who object to this love their homeland so much why are they they here and acting against the American flag? Let them celebrate their homeland but that should be secondary to celebrating their current home.
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If a parochial school student wears a flag t-shirt to school instead of conforming to the pre-authorized uniform dress code and the school takes action, would they be wrong as well ?
The laws apply differently. Any government organization is held to a strict obedience to the Constitution over a private organization. Rules and policies of a government organization are considered laws in the context of the Constitution.

Example: if a school district has policy for the criteria for laying off teachers and shows a random method when laying off teachers or firing them, the district can be held accountable for violations of due process and equal protection that does not apply to a private school or organization.
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What a thing to teach people. I'm not even American and this infuriates me. No one should ever be forbidden to show pride in their country when they are in their country. If the Mexicans who object to this love their homeland so much why are they they here and acting against the American flag? Let them celebrate their homeland but that should be secondary to celebrating their current home.
exactly! they can always feel free to celebrate cinco de mayo in mexico!
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I'm personally not against celebrating Cinco de Mayo in the U.S., just as I'm not against celebrating St.Patric's day, or Chines new year but, keep politics and racism out of it. It has no place in these celebrations. They should be celebrated for what they are.
What I don't like are ethnic groups saying, I'm German American, or Chinese American, or Russian American, etc. If your a legal citizen of this country your American first. They should say American Russian, American Chinese, etc., it's not a big deal but it does bother me.
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Old February 28th, 2014, 01:25 PM   #9
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If a parochial school student wears a flag t-shirt to school instead of conforming to the pre-authorized uniform dress code and the school takes action, would they be wrong as well ?
All the kids wear the same uniforms...they agree to it. That is different. There was no rule at that school banning flag shirts.

We are in America....why are we even celebrating Cinco de Mayo?

If we want to wear a flag shirt in honor of where the celebration is being held...AMERICA...then they should be allowed.

This is another example of a liberal whacked out moron.....raping the Constitution and GIVING MINORITIES MORE RIGHTS.

That judge should be horse whipped.
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Old February 28th, 2014, 01:36 PM   #10
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Rights are rights. Public vs. parochial are not treated differently in our judicial system on that count. Like gang wear, a school system is well within it's legal rights to set parameters on dress.
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