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Old May 22nd, 2014, 12:01 PM   #1
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Same Sh*t, Different Country?

Where have I heard this song before?

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Dominican Republic lawmakers pass citizenship bill

The Dominican senate has unanimously approved a bill which will set up a system to grant citizenship to Dominican-born children of immigrants.

It was proposed by the president after the country's highest court ruled last year that the children of undocumented migrants were not automatically eligible for Dominican nationality.

The ruling drew international criticism and soured relations with Haiti.

The court's ruling was decried as "racist" by international rights groups which accused the Dominican Republic of discriminating against Haitian immigrants, who often work in low-paid and low-skilled jobs.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 01:10 PM   #2
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Are you a citizen Canada if you are born there?

I would be cool with a repeal of the 14th Amendment in the US.
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Capitalism always requires an ever-increasing number of fresh, low-paid workers.

It's an invisible pyramid scheme right before everyone's eyes.
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Are you a citizen Canada if you are born there?

I would be cool with a repeal of the 14th Amendment in the US.
Or used as intended with jus sanguinis as the determination of citizenship.
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Are you a citizen Canada if you are born there?

I would be cool with a repeal of the 14th Amendment in the US.
Not any more. A herd of Chinese and Indians were sending wives and daughters here to whelp in case the kids ever developed a serious medical issue and so they would bring them back for "free" treatment so the government nixed the automatic citizenship if you you are born here. Now there are a variety of residence requirements.

If you were born here and did your schooling, you are in. I'm not sure exactly where the cut-off is.
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Are you a citizen Canada if you are born there?

I would be cool with a repeal of the 14th Amendment in the US.
The 14th amendment is clear on citizenship. It was the Court that corrupted the intent, and Congress can change it.
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But was no one else mildly amused with the Haiti is to the Dominican Republic as Mexico is to the US element of the story?
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But was no one else mildly amused with the Haiti is to the Dominican Republic as Mexico is to the US element of the story?
The real irony is, Mexico has the same issues on its southern border with Guatemala. People hopping the border to do the work Mexicans won't do, for what the Rich Mexican land owners are willing to pay.
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Capitalism always requires an ever-increasing number of fresh, low-paid workers.

It's an invisible pyramid scheme right before everyone's eyes.
What does that have to do with racism? I would imagine that the inhabitants of Hispaniola are of the same race? After the Trayvon Martin shooting it became well established in the US that Hispanics are the same race as Anglos. Here we have a similar situation, as we do in Canada, where we have accusations of racism, when it is between people of the same race who speak a different language.
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Capitalism always requires an ever-increasing number of fresh, low-paid workers.

It's an invisible pyramid scheme right before everyone's eyes.
...Broaden how we look at the low paid immigrant workers...From where they come from what they make isn't really low pay, it's only when you look at from what we as citizens consider the norm that it is low...They are used to working harder and making due on even less, they understand living within their means better than we do...It may very we'll be an invisible pyramid scheme but now that the average American won't do the work because thru lack of effort on their part and it's all they are qualified to do, why do we saddle our failures on the backs of people who are only trying better their own quality of life?...minimum wage for an immigrant is exponentially better than eating Haitian dirt cookies ( recipies available online)...
...We can also look back at our own history...This country was settled mostly by the religiously oppressed...Then we had a revolution because of economic oppression (let's not talk about how we oppressed and continue to oppress Native Americans)...People are still immigrating for these same reasons but now that our planet has been completely divided up and borders gaurded it makes it harder for people to better themselves but the strong will always find a way and I support them...It takes a lot of guts to leave your family, language and culture...Something most Americans don't have the balls to do...

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