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Old August 7th, 2014, 09:17 PM   #1
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Global Warming Deniers Become More Desperate By the Day

This article by Dr. David Suzuki, a noted scientist and author, really nails it. Most of the world now recognizes the reality and seriousness of Anthropogenic Global Warming and its consequent climate changes. The astroturfed cult of AGW denial that the fossil fuel industry has ginned up is doomed to sink even further into ignominy and disgrace and laughableness as the world continues to obviously heat up and the climate changes become even more apparent.

Global Warming Deniers Become More Desperate By the Day
Dr. David Suzuki
August 5, 2014
The Heartland Institute’s recent International Climate Change Conference in Las Vegas illustrates climate change deniers’ desperate confusion. As Bloomberg News noted, “Heartland’s strategy seemed to be to throw many theories at the wall and see what stuck.” A who’s who of fossil fuel industry supporters and anti-science shills variously argued that global warming is a myth; that it’s happening but natural—a result of the sun or “Pacific Decadal Oscillation;” that it’s happening but we shouldn’t worry about it; or that global cooling is the real problem."

The only common thread, Bloomberg reported, was the preponderance of attacks on and jokes about Al Gore: “It rarely took more than a minute or two before one punctuated the swirl of opaque and occasionally conflicting scientific theories.

Personal attacks are common among deniers. Their lies are continually debunked, leaving them with no rational challenge to overwhelming scientific evidence that the world is warming and that humans are largely responsible. Comments under my columns about global warming include endless repetition of falsehoods like “there’s been no warming for 18 years,” “it’s the sun,” and references to “communist misanthropes,” “libtard warmers,” alarmists and worse…

Far worse. Katharine Hayhoe, director of Texas Tech’s Climate Science Center and an evangelical Christian, had her email inbox flooded with hate mail and threats after conservative pundit Rush Limbaugh denounced her, and right-wing blogger Mark Morano published her email address. “I got an email the other day so obscene I had to file a police report,” Hayhoe said in an interview on the Responding to Climate Change website. “They mentioned my child. It had all kinds of sexual perversions in it—it just makes your skin crawl.

One email chastised her for taking “a man’s job” and called for her public execution, finishing with, “If you have a child, then women in the future will be even more leery of lying to get ahead, when they see your baby crying next to the basket next to the guillotine.

Many attacks came from fellow Christians unable to accept that humans can affect “God’s creation.” That’s a belief held even by a few well-known scientists and others held up as climate experts, including Roy Spencer, David Legates and Canadian economist Ross McKitrick. They’ve signed the Cornwall Alliance’s Evangelical Declaration on Global Warming, which says, “We believe Earth and its ecosystems—created by God’s intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence—are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting, admirably suited for human flourishing, and displaying His glory. Earth’s climate system is no exception.” This worldview predetermines their approach to the science.

Lest you think nasty, irrational comments are exclusively from fringe elements, remember the gathering place for most deniers, the Heartland Institute, has compared those who accept the evidence for human-caused climate change to terrorists. Similar language was used to describe the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in a full-page ad in USA Today and Politico from the Environmental Policy Alliance, a front group set up by PR firm Berman and Company, which has attacked environmentalists, labour-rights advocates, health organizations—even Mothers Against Drunk Driving and the Humane Society—on behalf of funders and clients including Monsanto, Wendy’s and tobacco giant Phillip Morris. The terrorism meme was later picked up by Pennsylvania Republican congressman Mike Kelly.

Fortunately, most people don’t buy irrational attempts to disavow science. A Forum Research poll found 81 percent of Canadians accept the reality of global warming, and 58 percent agree it’s mostly human-caused. An Ipsos MORI poll found that, although the U.S. has a higher number of climate change deniers than 20 countries surveyed, 54 percent of Americans believe in human-caused climate change. (Research also shows climate change denial is most prevalent in English-speaking countries, especially in areas “served” by media outlets owned by Rupert Murdoch, who rejects climate science.)

It’s time to shift attention from those who sow doubt and confusion, either out of ignorance or misanthropic greed, to those who want to address a real, serious problem. The BBC has the right idea, instructing its reporters to improve accuracy by giving less air time to people with anti-science views, including climate change deniers.

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Yawn.. Still does not change the facts. that GW is due to solar Activity, of which your chart confirmed.

Despirate.. why. Science is proving we Deniers of MMGW to be correct in our Denial.
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Old August 7th, 2014, 09:20 PM   #3
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Yawn.. Still does not change the facts. that GW is due to solar Activity, of which your chart confirmed.

Despirate.. why. Science is proving we Deniers of MMGW to be correct in our Denial.
Your usual delusional insanity.....still worthless.....
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Your usual delusional insanity.....still worthless.....


That would be klaatu then, who relies on heavy doses of personal attacks in virtually every post. Pot, meet kettle.

RSS data, no warming for ~17 years.

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RSS data, no warming for ~17 years.
Thanks, lowcaliber, for once again demonstrating the grasping-at-straws desperation of the hard core denier cultists, as the OP discussed.

RSS data shows warming trend since 1979 when satellite measurements began. Deniers love to cherry-pick really warm years, like 1998, at the beginning of short time frames to try to deceive the gullible. All of the data, both from satellite instrumentation and ground based temperature stations, shows a strong upward trend in temperatures over the last thirty or forty years.


Globally averaged temperature anomaly time series for the Lower Tropospheric Temperature (TLT). The plot shows the warming of the troposphere over the last 3 decades which has been attributed to human-caused global warming.
source - Remote Sensing Systems

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If we look at 1980-1981 to today there is no trend. Or 1991 to today, no trend.

Since the data is from 1979-2014, picking the most recent ~17 years is not unusual at all.

Who cherry picked the Arctic ice mean from 1979-2000? The AGW crowd. Now that's cherry picking! If as with the RSS data we used 1979-2014, where would the mean be today?

And who was it touting 1998 as proof of AGW not all that long ago? Why the AGW crowd, that's who! More cherry picking by them.


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That would be klaatu then, who relies on heavy doses of personal attacks in virtually every post. Pot, meet kettle.

RSS data, no warming for ~17 years.

That's why I hit IGNORE......
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If we look at 1980-1981 to today there is no trend. Or 1991 to today, no trend. Since the data is from 1979-2014, picking the most recent ~17 years is not unusual at all. Who cherry picked the Arctic ice mean from 1979-2000? The AGW crowd. Now that's cherry picking! If as with the RSS data we used 1979-2014, where would the mean be today? And who was it touting 1998 as proof of AGW not all that long ago? Why the AGW crowd, that's who! More cherry picking by them.
As I said before....what you are trying to do here is to deceive people by cherry-picking small time periods and specific warm years as a starting points. A standard denier cult propaganda technique.

Global warming continues with no slow down
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One often hears the statement in the media that global warming stopped in 1998, or that there has been no global warming for the past 16 years. Why pick 16 years? Why not some nice round number like 20 years? Or better yet, 30 years, since the climate is generally defined as the average weather experienced over a period of 30 years or longer? Temperatures at Earth's surface undergo natural, decades-long warming and cooling trends, related to the La Niņa/El Niņo cycle and the 11-year sunspot cycle. The reason one often hears the year 1998 used as a base year to measure global temperature trends is that this is a cherry-picked year. An extraordinarily powerful El Niņo event that was the strongest on record brought about a temporary increase in surface ocean temperatures over a vast area of the tropical Pacific that year, helping boost global surface temperatures to the highest levels on record (global temperatures were warmer in both 2005 and 2010, but not by much.) But in the years from 2005 - 2012, La Niņa events have been present for at least a portion of every single year, helping keep Earth's surface relatively cool. Thus, if one draws a straight-line fit of global surface temperatures from 1998 to 2012, a climate trend showing little global warming results. If one picks any year prior to 1998, or almost any year after 1998, a global warming trend does result. The choice of 1998 is a deliberate abuse of statistics in an attempt to manipulate people into drawing a false conclusion on global temperature trends. One of my favorite examples of this manipulation of statistics is shown an animated graph called "The Escalator".


Average of NASA's GISS, NOAA"s NCDC, and the UK Met Office's HadCRUT4 monthly global surface temperature departures from average, from January 1970 through November 2012 (blue), with linear trends applied to the time frames Jan '70 - Oct '77, Apr '77 - Dec '86, Sep '87 - Nov '96, Jun '97 - Dec '02, Nov '02 - Nov '12. Climate change skeptics like to emphasize the shorter term fluctuations in global temperatures (blue lines) and ignore the long-term climate trend (red line.) The global surface temperature trend from January 1970 through November 2012 (red line) is +0.16°C (+0.29°F) per decade. Image credit: skepticalscience.com.
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Yawn.. Still does not change the facts. that GW is due to solar Activity, of which your chart confirmed.

Despirate.. why. Science is proving we Deniers of MMGW to be correct in our Denial.
This place is often referred to as "the water planet". Lo and behold...the biggest greenhouse gas is water.

Heat makes the water cycle work...drawing up water from the surface and re-condensing it down again. Lo and behold...it's the sun that provides the heat.

MMGW...is a fact. Our very lives expel heat. Even our decomposing corpses will give off heat. Lighting a match gives off heat. All that CO2 is taken up...stored...released over and over and over. But even the most trivial, picayune bump from the sun overrides anything we mere mortals can do. Indeed, we are all happily living in a Cosmic Kitchen Blender...and Sol just hasn't hit the "on" button...yet.
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As I said before....what you are trying to do here is to deceive people by cherry-picking small time periods and specific warm years as a starting points. A standard denier cult propaganda technique.

Global warming continues with no slow down
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One often hears the statement in the media that global warming stopped in 1998, or that there has been no global warming for the past 16 years. Why pick 16 years? Why not some nice round number like 20 years? Or better yet, 30 years, since the climate is generally defined as the average weather experienced over a period of 30 years or longer? Temperatures at Earth's surface undergo natural, decades-long warming and cooling trends, related to the La Niņa/El Niņo cycle and the 11-year sunspot cycle. The reason one often hears the year 1998 used as a base year to measure global temperature trends is that this is a cherry-picked year. An extraordinarily powerful El Niņo event that was the strongest on record brought about a temporary increase in surface ocean temperatures over a vast area of the tropical Pacific that year, helping boost global surface temperatures to the highest levels on record (global temperatures were warmer in both 2005 and 2010, but not by much.) But in the years from 2005 - 2012, La Niņa events have been present for at least a portion of every single year, helping keep Earth's surface relatively cool. Thus, if one draws a straight-line fit of global surface temperatures from 1998 to 2012, a climate trend showing little global warming results. If one picks any year prior to 1998, or almost any year after 1998, a global warming trend does result. The choice of 1998 is a deliberate abuse of statistics in an attempt to manipulate people into drawing a false conclusion on global temperature trends. One of my favorite examples of this manipulation of statistics is shown an animated graph called "The Escalator".


Average of NASA's GISS, NOAA"s NCDC, and the UK Met Office's HadCRUT4 monthly global surface temperature departures from average, from January 1970 through November 2012 (blue), with linear trends applied to the time frames Jan '70 - Oct '77, Apr '77 - Dec '86, Sep '87 - Nov '96, Jun '97 - Dec '02, Nov '02 - Nov '12. Climate change skeptics like to emphasize the shorter term fluctuations in global temperatures (blue lines) and ignore the long-term climate trend (red line.) The global surface temperature trend from January 1970 through November 2012 (red line) is +0.16°C (+0.29°F) per decade. Image credit: skepticalscience.com.
Exactly.

The dishonesty of the deniers is legion and legend.
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