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Old August 28th, 2014, 09:42 AM   #1
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How the GOP Sold Out Middle America for Corporate America

How the GOP Sold Out Middle America for Corporate America | The American Conservative

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Out of the Republican retreat on Maryland’s Eastern shore comes word that the House leadership is raising the white flag of surrender on immigration. The GOP will agree to halt the deportation of 12 million illegal aliens, and sign on to a blanket amnesty. It only asks that the 12 million not be put on a path to citizenship. Sorry, but losers do not dictate terms. Rich Trumka of the AFL-CIO says amnesty is no longer enough. Illegal aliens must be put on a path to citizenship and given green cards to work—and join unions.

Rep. Paul Ryan and the Wall Street Journal are for throwing in the towel. Legalize them all and start them on the path to citizenship. A full and final capitulation. Let’s get it over with. To understand why and how the Republican Party lost Middle America, and faces demographic death, we need to go back to Bush I.

At the Cold War’s end, the GOP reached a fork in the road. The determination of Middle Americans to preserve the country they grew up in, suddenly collided with the profit motive of Corporate America. The Fortune 500 wanted to close factories in the USA and ship production abroad—where unions did not exist, regulations were light, taxes were low, and wages were a fraction of what they were here in America. Corporate America was going global and wanted to be rid of its American work force, the best paid on earth, and replace it with cheap foreign labor. While manufacturing sought to move production abroad, hotels, motels, bars, restaurants, farms, and construction companies that could not move abroad also wanted to replace their expensive American workers.

Thanks to the Republican Party, Corporate America got it all.
There's your illegal problem. Too bad the propaganda news of the republican party won't tell its own voters that. They keep voting to lower American wages and keep illegals employed and don't even know why.
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There's your illegal problem. Too bad the propaganda news of the republican party won't tell its own voters that. They keep voting to lower American wages and keep illegals employed and don't even know why.
You just gave a compelling list of why corporations ship manufacturing overseas. Now provide a reason why a company is responsible for creating jobs and not profits.
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There's your illegal problem. Too bad the propaganda news of the republican party won't tell its own voters that. They keep voting to lower American wages and keep illegals employed and don't even know why.
If all that is true, why are unions and democrats pushing amnesty for illegal immigrants?
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There's your illegal problem. Too bad the propaganda news of the republican party won't tell its own voters that. They keep voting to lower American wages and keep illegals employed and don't even know why.
"They keep voting to lower American wages and keep illegals employed..."

Okay, when? What bill or bills are you referring to? If they KEEP voting, then there should be plenty of examples. Pick one.......
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If all that is true, why are unions and democrats pushing amnesty for illegal immigrants?


I don't think they are. Show the links which says that unions and democrats are pushing for amnesty. And make sure it specifies amnesty for whom. Which group are you talking about? Dreamers? Illegals recruited by corporations like Halliburton to undermine American wages? The children from the violence of drug wars in Central America?
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no good reason any illegal immigrant , even if amnestied, should get citizenship. we don't let felons vote.
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I don't think they are. Show the links which says that unions and democrats are pushing for amnesty. And make sure it specifies amnesty for whom. Which group are you talking about? Dreamers? Illegals recruited by corporations like Halliburton to undermine American wages? The children from the violence of drug wars in Central America?
Every illegal that is here, or wants to come I guess.

Do you support Obama in giving legal status to five or six million as he is threatening?


Unions prod Obama toward executive action on immigration - Washington Times

The AFL-CIO made its case at a panel discussion in Washington that highlighted the plight of undocumented workers, including testimony by illegal immigrants who describe the indignities they suffered because of their status.

“The labor movement is driven by its mission to ensure workers have good jobs and fair treatment. This cannot be fully accomplished without immigration relief for the millions of undocumented workers who labor in not only unjust, but dangerous, working conditions,” said Karla Vegas, legal director of the Worker Defense Project, which assists day laborers.

Lorella Praeli of the youth-led immigrant group United We Dream called on Mr. Obama to show “courage” by unilaterally granting legal status to undocumented workers.
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"They keep voting to lower American wages and keep illegals employed..."

Okay, when? What bill or bills are you referring to? If they KEEP voting, then there should be plenty of examples. Pick one.......
ALEC-Inspired "Right to Work" Bill Back Again in Pennsylvania | PR Watch

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Rep. Metcalfe has introduced this union-busting legislation in every session over the past fourteen years. But this time might be different. Republicans control both houses of the Pennsylvania legislature and the governor's seat, as they do in Michigan. Plus, union busting is becoming a top priority of some Tea Party groups with very deep pockets.

"If Michigan, the home to the United Autoworkers Union, can pass Right to Work, it can pass ... here," declared the Pennsylvania chapter of the David Koch-funded Americans for Prosperity (AFP) network. AFP was a key pusher of the union-busting bill in Michigan, conducting a press offensive and engaging in astroturf activities as the bill was rammed through the legislature.

The Tea Party group FreedomWorks has also prioritized anti-union advocacy in 2013, and has published a study purporting to show the effectiveness of similar "paycheck protection" legislation in defunding unions in Pennsylvania.

Stephen Moore of the Wall Street Journal editorial board provided some high-profile support for the effort when he penned an article on January 25 supporting right to work in Pennsylvania. Moore has long been involved with ALEC. He is listed as an ALEC "scholar" on the organizations website and often speaks at ALEC meetings. He also is the co-author of ALEC's annual "Rich States Poor States" report -- and in his WSJ op-ed, Moore appears to cite his own study to claim the bill is good for state economies (writing "A study by the American Legislative Exchange Council finds that new factories and facilities are much more likely to open in states without forced unionism.")

Moore does not disclose that he authored the report, whose claims have been discredited by economists at Good Jobs First and at academic institutions. The Economic Policy Institute has also specifically rebutted the Rich States Poor States claims about the benefits of right to work, finding that the laws actually correspond with lower wages, fewer benefits and decreased workplace safety. Also worthy of note is the fact that Rupert Murdoch's Newscorp, which owns the Wall Street Journal, is also an ALEC funder.
Bill Is Part of ALEC-Inspired "Open Workforce Initiative" Package

Metcalfe's proposal is part of a package called the "Open Workforce Initiative," where six different legislators have proposed six different iterations of ALEC-inspired anti-union legislation. Four of the six legislators are known ALEC members.

HB 51, 52, and 53 each echo the ALEC "Public Employee Freedom Act," which prohibits unions from collecting dues from non-union members to pay for the costs of representation (HB 51 would apply to public school employees, HB 52 to state workers, and HB 53 to local government workers). HB 54, sponsored by ALEC member Rep. Jerry Knowles, is nearly identical to Metcalfe's right to work bill, but would only apply to the private sector. HB 250 is Pennsylvania-specific legislation that would amend the labor relations code to allow teachers to drop their union membership at any time.
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Economists Agree That Immigration Strengthens U.S. Economy

Immigration Expert: Passing Comprehensive Immigration Reform Would Add At Least $1.5 Trillion To The U.S. Economy Over 10 Years. In a 2012 report about the economic benefits of comprehensive immigration reform published by the Cato Institute, UCLA professor and immigration expert Raúl Hinojosa-Ojeda found that passing immigration reform "would raise wages, increase consumption, create jobs, and generate additional tax revenue." He wrote:

The historical experience of legalization under the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act indicates that comprehensive immigration reform would raise wages, increase consumption, create jobs, and generate additional tax revenue. Even though IRCA was implemented during a period that included a recession and high unemployment (1990-91), it still helped raise wages and spurred increases in educational, home, and small business investments by newly legalized immigrants. Taking the experience of IRCA as a starting point, we estimate that comprehensive immigration reform would yield at least $1.5 trillion in added U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) over 10 years. [Cato Institute, Winter 2012]

Bush Administration Report Found That Immigration Adds $37 Billion To The U.S. Economy Annually. A report by the Bush-era White House Council of Economic Advisers found that immigrants increase gross domestic product "by roughly $37 billion each year because immigrants increase the size of the total labor force, complement the native-born workforce in terms of skills and education, and stimulate capital investment by adding workers to the labor pool." [Immigration Policy Center, 6/12]

Hinojosa-Ojeda: "Higher Earning Power Of Newly Legalized Workers" Would "Generate $4.5 To $5.4 Billion In Additional Net Tax Revenue Nationally." In his 2012 report, Hinojosa-Ojeda found that comprehensive immigration reform would "bring substantial economic gains even in the short run." Hinojosa-Ojeda explained that the "higher earning power of newly legalized workers translates into an increase in net personal income of $30 billion to $36 billion, which would generate $4.5 to $5.4 billion in additional net tax revenue nationally, enough to support 750,000 to 900,000 new jobs." [Cato Institute, Winter 2012]
Immigrants Increase U.S. Economic Growth

Immigration Policy Center: "Immigrant Entrepreneurs Add Billions Of Dollars And Millions Of Jobs To The U.S. Economy." A fact sheet by the Immigration Policy Center said that 4.7 million people are employed by immigrant-owned small businesses and that 18 percent of all small business owners in the United States are immigrants (a figure disproportionate to their 13 percent share of the population). [Immigration Policy Center, 6/2012]

Wash. Post: Immigration "Increases Innovation." In an article about the effect of immigration on the U.S. economy, Washington Post writer Dylan Matthews noted that numerous studies show that foreign nationals living in the United States have accounted for at least a quarter of start-ups, including the majority in Silicon Valley, and patent applications in this country. Matthews further reported that "an expansion of high-skilled visas passed in 1998 increased revenue at affected companies by 15 percent." [The Washington Post, 1/29/13]

Bloomberg BusinessWeek: "By 2030, Nearly 70 Percent Of Latinos Who Came To The U.S. During The 1990s Are Expected To Own A Home." In a column arguing that increased immigration is key to U.S. economic growth, Charles Kenny, a fellow at the Center for Global Development and the New America Foundation, noted a study showing that by "2030, nearly 70 percent of Latinos who came to the U.S. during the 1990s are expected to own a home." Kenny added:

That's good news, the researchers point out, because the 78 million-strong baby-boom generation in the U.S. will be looking to downsize as their children leave home. Workers from Latin America were central to building the boomer housing stock, and they'll be central to ensure it is still worth something in 20 years. [Bloomberg BusinessWeek, 11/28/12]

Census: 65.4 Percent Of The Overall U.S. Population Are Homeowners. According to data from the U.S. Census bureau, 65.4 percent of the total U.S. population own their own homes. [U.S. Census Bureau, 1/29/13]

Pew Hispanic Center: More Than A Third Of Undocumented Immigrants Are Homeowners. Pew reported that "35% of all unauthorized immigrant households are homeowners" and that "45% of undocumented immigrants who have lived in the United States for a decade or more own their own homes." [Pew Hispanic Center, 4/14/09]
Higher Immigration Generally Leads To Lower Unemployment, Boost In Wages

WSJ: Labor Economist "Found That Higher Levels Of Immigration Coincided With Lower Levels Of Unemployment." The Wall Street Journal noted that labor economist Richard Vedder of Ohio University "looked at the relationship between immigration and U.S. unemployment throughout the 20th century and found that higher levels of immigration coincided with lower levels of unemployment." [The Wall Street Journal, 6/18/12]

Brookings Institution: "On Average, Immigrants Raise The Overall Standard Of Living Of American Workers." The Brookings Institution's Hamilton Project said in a 2010 report that the "most recent academic research suggests that, on average, immigrants raise the overall standard of living of American workers by boosting wages and lowering prices." It added that while economists are divided on whether immigrants lower wages for certain groups of workers, immigrants "enhance the purchasing power of Americans by lowering prices of 'immigrant-intensive' services like child care, gardening, and cleaning services." [Brookings Institution, The Hamilton Project, September 2010]

Study: Cities With Restrictive Immigration Laws Lower Local Employment By Nearly 20 Percent. In a study examining the economic effects of restrictive immigration laws, researchers at the Americas Society and the Council of the Americas determined that cities with restrictive immigration laws would reduce local employment by 0.18 percent. The AS/COA study further noted: "When compared to cities with non-restrictive ordinances, employment-related ones had a negative and statistically significant impact on cities' business environments." [Americas Society and the Council of the Americas, 10/20/11]

Migration Policy Institute: U.S. Immigration From 1990 To 2006 "Caused A 2.86 Percent Real Wage Increase For The Average US Worker." In a June 2010 Migration Policy Institute report, economist Giovanni Peri found that "total immigration to the United States over the period 1990-2006 ... caused a 2.86 percent real wage increase for the average US worker." [Migration Policy Institute, June 2010]

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The REAL impact on Right to Work Republican laws enacted by the Koch Brothers ALEC corporations....

Right-to-Work Laws, Explained | Mother Jones

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The Indiana law took on unions in a state where labor's foothold was once strong and is now "slowly diminishing." That makes it a perfect place to begin an attack on labor in the Rust Belt, Rapoport argues.

If unions in Indiana lose membership and become weaker because of the law, lower wages might lure manufacturing business from Michigan, where 18 percent of workers are currently represented by organized labor.

A right-to-work movement has also begun to take hold in Michigan, too. As my colleague Andy Kroll has reported, last October legislators unveiled a "right-to-teach" bill that "would let teachers work under union-negotiated contracts without chipping in a dime for the cost of negotiations." The bill is currently in the Committee on Reforms, Restructuring and Reinventing. The Detroit News reported that Mitt Romney was pushing hard for right-to-work laws when he campaigned through the state before narrowly winning its GOP primary election in February.

Wisconsin is also grappling with a right-to-work law. At the same time he was trying to eliminate collective bargaining for public-sector employees, Gov. Scott Walker floated a right-to-work bill. Now pushback by organized labor and the public on behalf of workers' rights has Walker facing a recall election.

Who's supporting the recent right-to-work laws?

Indiana's legislation appears to have come from the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). As Karen Olsson reported in Mother Jones in 2002, ALEC, which is funded by private corporations, industry groups, and conservative foundations, "gives business a direct hand in writing bills that are considered in state assemblies nationwide." The group's model legislation includes Arizona's SB 1070, and a "truth in sentencing" bill that the Corrections Corporation of America helped draft.

How do these laws affect the economy?

It's hard to say. The most well-known study on the development of manufacturing in states with right-to-work laws was published by Thomas Holmes in 2000. Holmes compared manufacturing growth or decline on the borders between right-to-work states and states without the pro-business legislation. He found that in right-to-work states, manufacturing employment was higher than in "anti-business" states without the laws. These findings have led supporters like Harvard economics professor Robert Barro to conclude that "right-to-work laws—or, more broadly, the pro-business policies offered by right-to-work states—matter for economic growth."

However, Mother Jones' Kevin Drum says it's no surprise pro-business states attract more manufacturing:

"[B]usinesses prefer locating in states where costs are low and rules are lax — something I think we all knew already. Of course that's what businesses prefer. But it says literally nothing at all about whether the United States as a whole would have higher or lower growth if every state either did or didn't have right-to-work laws."

Holmes is careful to note that factors like the expansion of railways and trucking and even the invention of air conditioning all played a part in the stronger growth of manufacturing in the Southern and Sun Belt states. Holmes' findings also don't mean the laws are good for the economy or the worker in a state over time. A 2011 study by the labor-backed Economic Policy Institute found that wages and benefits are lower in right-to-work states than in non-right-to-work states. Oklahoma has actually seen a reversal of the initial growth in manufacturing jobs since its right-to-work law passed in 2001. The EPI report found that in the cases of "higher-tech manufacturing, to 'knowledge' sector jobs, or to service industries dependent on consumer spending in the local economy—there is reason to believe that right-to-work laws may actually harm a state's economic prospects."
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Every illegal that is here, or wants to come I guess.

Do you support Obama in giving legal status to five or six million as he is threatening?


Unions prod Obama toward executive action on immigration - Washington Times

The AFL-CIO made its case at a panel discussion in Washington that highlighted the plight of undocumented workers, including testimony by illegal immigrants who describe the indignities they suffered because of their status.

“The labor movement is driven by its mission to ensure workers have good jobs and fair treatment. This cannot be fully accomplished without immigration relief for the millions of undocumented workers who labor in not only unjust, but dangerous, working conditions,” said Karla Vegas, legal director of the Worker Defense Project, which assists day laborers.

Lorella Praeli of the youth-led immigrant group United We Dream called on Mr. Obama to show “courage” by unilaterally granting legal status to undocumented workers.
Not good enough. If you don't know enough about the issue to be specific on who you are targeting, then my guess is you are having one of the infamous emotional knee jerk responses to the black president and are totally clueless about the issue.

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Not good enough. If you don't know enough about the issue to be specific on who you are targeting, then my guess is you are having one of the infamous emotional knee jerk responses to the black president and are totally clueless about the issue.

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Since the unions haven't specific any groups of undocumented democrats, then the assumption is everyone.

So you support the Unions and Obama that illegal immigrants should be given legal status?
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