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Old September 4th, 2014, 07:48 PM   #51
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Yes, Catholics and Church of Christ believe you are not saved until you are baptized.
And if I am correct southren baptist believe baptism is a choice and is done some time in their teens even into adulthood?
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Old September 4th, 2014, 07:56 PM   #52
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I do. I am no scholar, but I have read and studied more then one version even own a few study bibles. Different sects interpret it different ways. I don't believe that a fetus is a human so to me it would have no soul. I am wondering about the opinion of those who are against abortion, who say that a fetus is a human. If it is a human than it would have a soul. Where does that soul end up after the abortion?
Here is a good start for ensoulment; you can go back further, but this is a good sequence: Psalm 139:13-16, 2 Samuel 12, and 2 Samuel 12:23.
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And if I am correct southren baptist believe baptism is a choice and is done some time in their teens even into adulthood?
Southern Baptist believe in Baptism, but Baptism is not a requirment for Salvation.


The Batism is to be proclaiming in a public manner your acceting Grace and Christ, it is a symbol of the Death of our old life which is subject to judgment by the law of moses, into our new life where we will be judged by the gift of grace offered by Christ and our accepting of that gift.

you are saved at the moment you accept christ, according to the SB

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Southern Baptist believe in Baptism, but Baptism is not a requirment for Salvation.
Yeah just the Jesus thing and turning your life over to god.
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Yeah just the Jesus thing and turning your life over to god.
exactly.

moving from a life under the law, to a life under grace.
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Old September 4th, 2014, 09:33 PM   #56
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Here is a good start for ensoulment; you can go back further, but this is a good sequence: Psalm 139:13-16, 2 Samuel 12, and 2 Samuel 12:23.
I don't see how those have anything to do with the "souls" of the unborn or what your ilk believes. plus are they not old testament ?

That's ok

Everyone is all about condemning abortion because they believe the a fetus is a human and if it is a human I would assume it has a soul. I'm curious what happens to said soul when that fetus is exterminated.
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I don't see how those have anything to do with the "souls" of the unborn or what your ilk believes. plus are they not old testament ?

That's ok

Everyone is all about condemning abortion because they believe the a fetus is a human and if it is a human I would assume it has a soul. I'm curious what happens to said soul when that fetus is exterminated.
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4Now the word of the LORD came to me saying, 5"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."
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4now the word of the lord came to me saying, 5"before i formed you in the womb i knew you, and before you were born i consecrated you; i have appointed you a prophet to the nations."
what happens to the soul?
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what happens to the soul?
My answer is: I don't know..

I belive since they had no opportunity to sin, and have not reached accountablity (knowing right from wrong) they are in heaven.
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My answer is: I don't know..

I belive since they had no opportunity to sin, and have not reached accountablity (knowing right from wrong) they are in heaven.
Thank you for replying. That would be the logical response if there was one.
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