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Old September 5th, 2014, 01:35 PM   #81
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I have given my opinion; conception and ensoulment happen at the same time according to the Bible, thus in accordance with the Bible regarding a child, they are destined for Heaven.

The reason I give someone an avenue to understand a subject is because it is their choice to be intellectually lazy and still continue to argue with no foundational knowledge of a subject. I find it rather amusing actually.
I do not see a reference to a fetus in utero, it's death or it's soul.
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That's your very undereducated opinion of course and you certainly are entitled to it. However, your opinion doesn't trump standing law. And it has stood for over 40 years without being overturned. In other words, the law is what it is and the law states that women have the fundamental right to bodily sovereignty when within the laws of the state they live in. Period.
I am... apparently not....

People are becoming more pro life because they see the horrors of abortion.

If the trend continues, Pro-Deathers will be looked upon in the same light as Slave owners of the old South, in the future..
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Old September 5th, 2014, 01:35 PM   #83
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I have given my opinion; conception and ensoulment happen at the same time according to the Bible, thus in accordance with the Bible regarding a child, they are destined for Heaven.

The reason I give someone an avenue to understand a subject is because it is their choice to be intellectually lazy and still continue to argue with no foundational knowledge of a subject. I find it rather amusing actually.
Lies, based on bias and disregard for certain members of the population and attempts to excuse that with a claim of superior knowledge of everything in relation to the subject. With zero evidence to back it up. Or just another day of Jimmyb's posts at DtT

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That's your very undereducated opinion of course and you certainly are entitled to it. However, your opinion doesn't trump standing law. And it has stood for over 40 years without being overturned. In other words, the law is what it is and the law states that women have the fundamental right to bodily sovereignty when within the laws of the state they live in. Period.
An opinion on abortion being murder trumps the Supreme Court's ruling in Roe v. Wade. It is the uneducated who believe the court can override the morals of the Bible, and it is the morally damaged who think the court can determine morality with the swing of a gavel.
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Lies, based on bias and disregard for certain members of the population and attempts to excuse that with a claim of superior knowledge of everything in relation to the subject. With zero evidence to back it up. Or another day of Jimmyb's posts at DtT
Or another day of WT running from her lies. Why don't you address that pack of lies you posted about the 5th Circuit?
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I do not see a reference to a fetus in utero, it's death or it's soul.
You scold me for giving more than my opinion on where aborted babies go, now you seem to be seeking my explaining this, which would take the original language, which you scolded me for referring to. I'm dizzy.
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An opinion on abortion being murder trumps the Supreme Court's ruling in Roe v. Wade. It is the uneducated who believe the court can override the morals of the Bible, and it is the morally damaged who think the court can determine morality with the swing of a gavel.

The court is not there to place your version of morality on society. If your version of Christianity believes abortion goes against your moral code, then you guys shouldn't get abortions. It is no different than Muslims wanting to inforce their version of morality upon you.
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You scold me for giving more than my opinion on where aborted babies go, now you seem to be seeking my explaining this, which would take the original language, which you scolded me for referring to. I'm dizzy.
I'm not scolding you, I saw nothing on the subject, that is why many posts ago I stated that the "bible" is open to interpretation.

I was only asking you what you felt.

Both you and TV agree that they go to heaven.

I would guess the Catholics would say that they go to heaven or purgatory.


But I would let them put it in their own words.
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The court is not there to place your version of morality on society. If your version of Christianity believes abortion goes against your moral code, then you guys shouldn't get abortions. It is no different than Muslims wanting to inforce their version of morality upon you.
The court is not there to create law, it is not there to violate the Constitution, and it is not there to interfere with the states other than the short list of its powers delegated in Article III. Who is forcing what on whom? How old to you think abortion laws are? How old is Roe v. Wade?
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I'm not scolding you, I saw nothing on the subject, that is why many posts ago I stated that the "bible" is open to interpretation.

I was only asking you what you felt.

Both you and TV agree that they go to heaven.

I would guess the Catholics would say that they go to heaven or purgatory.


But I would let them put it in their own words.
I was just kidding about scolding to lighten it up.

Bible is pretty explicit where babies or children go, and explicit about conception and being human with a soul. One example:

Matthew 19:13-14

13 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.

14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
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