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Old December 5th, 2014, 09:04 PM   #1
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This isnt Amerika yet. This shit has to stop

Cops Seize Man's Property, Freeze Bank Accounts?And He Wishes They Would Charge Him with a Crime - Hit & Run : Reason.com

Wally Kowalski, an engineer living in a farmhouse in rural southwest Michigan, came home one day last September to find his property swarming with cops. They told him that they had spotted his marijuana plants from a helicopter. Kowalski has a license to grow and distribute medical pot to several low-income people who depend on the drug. He grows the plants in a garden area enclosed by a barbed wire fence.

But whether or not Kowalski had a legal right to grow mattered little to the state police, who seized his power generator—even though it had nothing to do with his marijuana plants—and some expensive equipment. They also destroyed the plants.

Kowalski told the Mackinac Center for Public Policy that they grabbed anything likely to be sold at a police auction. He said they were positively giddy after searching his house and finding his financial papers:

"When they found my bank accounts here in my office, they let out a yell. They said, 'Here's the bank accounts, we got him.' It's like the happiest thing for them, to find my bank accounts."

The police froze his accounts, rendering him unable to make payments on his student loans or other bills. And he could no longer complete the immigration process for his wife, a resident of Africa.

The authorities haven't charged Kowalski with a crime. They didn't even confiscate his marijuana license—probably because it has no auction value. He wishes they would—at least then he could defend himself in court, in front of a judge or jury. As things stand, he's unsure what he's supposed to do to convince the police to give him back his property.

After the Mackinac Center drew publicity to the case, the state unfroze Kowalski's assets. But his property is still in police custody.

Thomas Williams, another southwest Michigan resident, suffered a similar ordeal. His medical marijuana activities prompted police to ransack his property while they left him handcuffed for 10 hours. The cops took his car, phone, TV, and cash. Afterward, he had no means of getting to the grocery store or even contacting another human being for days. Like Kowalski, he hasn't been charged with a crime.

That was over a year ago. The police still have his stuff.
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Cops Seize Man's Property, Freeze Bank Accounts?And He Wishes They Would Charge Him with a Crime - Hit & Run : Reason.com

Wally Kowalski, an engineer living in a farmhouse in rural southwest Michigan, came home one day last September to find his property swarming with cops. They told him that they had spotted his marijuana plants from a helicopter. Kowalski has a license to grow and distribute medical pot to several low-income people who depend on the drug. He grows the plants in a garden area enclosed by a barbed wire fence.

But whether or not Kowalski had a legal right to grow mattered little to the state police, who seized his power generator—even though it had nothing to do with his marijuana plants—and some expensive equipment. They also destroyed the plants.

Kowalski told the Mackinac Center for Public Policy that they grabbed anything likely to be sold at a police auction. He said they were positively giddy after searching his house and finding his financial papers:

"When they found my bank accounts here in my office, they let out a yell. They said, 'Here's the bank accounts, we got him.' It's like the happiest thing for them, to find my bank accounts."

The police froze his accounts, rendering him unable to make payments on his student loans or other bills. And he could no longer complete the immigration process for his wife, a resident of Africa.

The authorities haven't charged Kowalski with a crime. They didn't even confiscate his marijuana license—probably because it has no auction value. He wishes they would—at least then he could defend himself in court, in front of a judge or jury. As things stand, he's unsure what he's supposed to do to convince the police to give him back his property.

After the Mackinac Center drew publicity to the case, the state unfroze Kowalski's assets. But his property is still in police custody.

Thomas Williams, another southwest Michigan resident, suffered a similar ordeal. His medical marijuana activities prompted police to ransack his property while they left him handcuffed for 10 hours. The cops took his car, phone, TV, and cash. Afterward, he had no means of getting to the grocery store or even contacting another human being for days. Like Kowalski, he hasn't been charged with a crime.

That was over a year ago. The police still have his stuff.
The state had to sort this out. The cops...good and bad...are just following protocol...but from the description of the scene...there were some misfits in the raid on this poor guy.

And if he showed the least sign of resistance...he'd be dead.

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I posted a while ago that ALL new police hires should come from those that have completed a comprehensive Bachelor Degree in a degree program that has been constructed and vetted by many stratas of society...civil rights right at the top of the list. Let the top GPA grads have their student loans scrapped while they are at it.
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This kind of shit is scary.
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The feds do this too. I live out in the sticks and I see DEA helicopters all the time out here. Last summer they raided a guy about a mile down the road from me because they thought they saw 4 marijuana plants from the air. A couple of years ago the feds seized over 500 acres in a township just north of me because they saw a few pot plants out in the scrub far from the house...they took the whole thing though. They've raided people just because they've seen big greenhouses.
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In Colorado and a few other states, Reefer Madness is over.

Think of money spent on this insane aspect of the War on Drugs.
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Cops Seize Man's Property, Freeze Bank Accounts?And He Wishes They Would Charge Him with a Crime - Hit & Run : Reason.com

Wally Kowalski, an engineer living in a farmhouse in rural southwest Michigan, came home one day last September to find his property swarming with cops. They told him that they had spotted his marijuana plants from a helicopter. Kowalski has a license to grow and distribute medical pot to several low-income people who depend on the drug. He grows the plants in a garden area enclosed by a barbed wire fence.

But whether or not Kowalski had a legal right to grow mattered little to the state police, who seized his power generator—even though it had nothing to do with his marijuana plants—and some expensive equipment. They also destroyed the plants.

Kowalski told the Mackinac Center for Public Policy that they grabbed anything likely to be sold at a police auction. He said they were positively giddy after searching his house and finding his financial papers:

"When they found my bank accounts here in my office, they let out a yell. They said, 'Here's the bank accounts, we got him.' It's like the happiest thing for them, to find my bank accounts."

The police froze his accounts, rendering him unable to make payments on his student loans or other bills. And he could no longer complete the immigration process for his wife, a resident of Africa.

The authorities haven't charged Kowalski with a crime. They didn't even confiscate his marijuana license—probably because it has no auction value. He wishes they would—at least then he could defend himself in court, in front of a judge or jury. As things stand, he's unsure what he's supposed to do to convince the police to give him back his property.

After the Mackinac Center drew publicity to the case, the state unfroze Kowalski's assets. But his property is still in police custody.

Thomas Williams, another southwest Michigan resident, suffered a similar ordeal. His medical marijuana activities prompted police to ransack his property while they left him handcuffed for 10 hours. The cops took his car, phone, TV, and cash. Afterward, he had no means of getting to the grocery store or even contacting another human being for days. Like Kowalski, he hasn't been charged with a crime.

That was over a year ago. The police still have his stuff.
A fine example of why marijuana growth, possession and use should be completely de-criminalized and made legal. To end bullshit such as this.
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In Colorado and a few other states, Reefer Madness is over.

Think of money spent on this insane aspect of the War on Drugs.
It has nothing to do with drugs. They'll find some new way to excuse themselves into your home and take your shit for auctioning.
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It has nothing to do with drugs. They'll find some new way to excuse themselves into your home and take your shit for auctioning.
Great, well we could, then, take away one excuse.

Rome wasn't built in a day.
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The feds do this too. I live out in the sticks and I see DEA helicopters all the time out here. Last summer they raided a guy about a mile down the road from me because they thought they saw 4 marijuana plants from the air. A couple of years ago the feds seized over 500 acres in a township just north of me because they saw a few pot plants out in the scrub far from the house...they took the whole thing though. They've raided people just because they've seen big greenhouses.
our tax dollars at work! I'd much rather see them shut down meth labs. they are far more dangerous and harmful. or maybe go after real criminals like rapists, terrorists, murderers, sex traffickers, thieves etc. but no, the guy with 4 pot plants in his back yard has top priority?
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A lot of people wont agree, well ok the leftist anti-gun crowd. To me this speaks volumes why its not only a right of the people, but you could argue it is a duty of the people to keep and bear arms.
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