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Old March 25th, 2015, 04:47 PM   #1
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Who wouldn't be in favor of that?

GOP-controlled House passes budget to erase deficits
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GOP-controlled House passes budget to erase deficits
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Who wouldn't be in favor of that you ask ? Why people who are NOT intellectually lazy and actually spend the time to figure out what a political gimmick it is. THAT'S WHO !!!!!!

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The House GOP budget is a gimmick

It was altogether fitting that Republicans rolled out their budget during a festival of inebriation in honor of the man who magically (and apocryphally) banished snakes from Ireland. What Republicans have done with their budget is no less fantastic: They have employed lucky charms and mystical pots of gold to make them appear more sober about balancing the budget than they actually are.

“We do not rely on gimmicks or creative accounting tricks to balance our budget,” the House Republicans say in the introduction to their fiscal 2016 budget.

True, the budget does not rely on gimmicks. The budget is a gimmick.

It pretends to keep strict limits on defense spending — so-called “sequestration” — but then pumps tens of billions of extra dollars into a slush fund called “Overseas Contingency Operations.” That means the funds count as emergency spending and not as part of the Pentagon budget.

It assumes that current tax cuts will be allowed to expire as scheduled — which would amount to a $900 billion tax increase that nobody believes would be allowed to go into effect.

It proposes to repeal Obamacare but then counts revenues and savings from Obamacare as if the law remained in effect.

It claims to save $5.5 trillion over 10 years, but in the fine print — the budget plan’s instructions to committees — it only asks them to identify about $5 billion in savings over that time.

It assumes more than $1 trillion in cuts to a category known as “other mandatory” programs — but doesn’t specify what those cuts would be.

It relies on $147 billion in additional revenue from “dynamic scoring,” a more generous accounting method.

It doesn’t account for the $200 billion plan now being negotiated to increase doctor payments under Medicare and to extend a children’s health-care program.

The difficulty concealing all these sleights of hand might explain why Price was in such a hurry to leave his news conference Tuesday. His predecessor, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), liked to give lengthy seminars on his conservative budgeting theories, but Price took questions for just six minutes before an aide hollered “last question.” The chairman was gone a minute later, and reporters gave chase to the leprechaun. “Can your budget pass?” one of them asked.

“I think so,” Price said, before locating his confidence. “Sure. Absolutely.”

It was the latest instance of the Republicans discovering how difficult it is to govern now that they have unified control of Congress. In the past four years, budget debuts were academic exercises because there would never be agreement between the Republican House and Democratic Senate. But now the budget might actually mean something, and the firebrands elected in the past three elections need to show how they would handle the country’s finances. It turns out they govern much like those who came before them — with legislative smoke and mirrors.

Rep. Rob Woodall (R-Ga.), one of those on the stage, observed that “folks are playing with the opportunity for the first time in my short congressional career to actually bring a budget to the United States.”

“Playing” is a good verb for the occasion.

Price, a Georgia Republican who ran the conservative Republican Study Committee, delivered a long statement, imparting his assurance that “we believe in America.” At least three times he held up the 43-page budget for the cameras. But after the 10-minute preamble, the questioning quickly got tricky for Price.

Why didn’t he ask committees to come up with more than $5 billion in savings?

“That’s a floor, not a ceiling,” Price said, adding something about “an opportunity to provide a positive solution that the American people desire.”

Andy Taylor of the Associated Press asked him about the $900 billion tax increase and the Obamacare revenues assumed in the budget.

“Because we believe in the American people, and we believe in growth,” replied Price, predicting higher-than-expected economic growth would boost tax revenues.


Jonathan Weisman of the New York Times asked Price if he would detail the $1 trillion in mandatory cuts that the budget doesn’t identify.

“Take a peek at ‘A Balanced Budget for a Stronger America,’ ” Price replied, holding up the budget again for the cameras.

“I’m looking at it,” Weisman said. “It doesn’t specify.”


It didn’t — and that’s the sort of trick Republicans can no longer get away with now that they’re in charge.
The House GOP budget is a gimmick - The Washington Post
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The GOP budget is off by two trillion dollars....they'd fix the mistake, but then their budget would suck....
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Who wouldn't be in favor of that you ask ? Why people who are NOT intellectually lazy and actually spend the time to figure out what a political gimmick it is. THAT'S WHO !!!!!!



The House GOP budget is a gimmick - The Washington Post
You can't really believe the claims of a liberal blogger, this is not a real newspaper article, do you know the difference?

Obama's budget larger spending increases, big tax increases, but still increases the budget deficits.

Are you in favor of smaller budget deficits?

GOP budget sets up fight between deficit hawks and defense hawks - The Washington Post

The plan, which pares more than $5 trillion from the federal budget.....Overall, the plan would spend almost $3.8 trillion in 2016, $136 billion less than the current budget envisions. Spending under the GOP plan would rise to more than $4 trillion by fiscal year 2019. It projects revenue of just under $3.5 trillion for the coming fiscal year.

2016 Obama Budget

The 5 Big Asks in President Obama’s Aspirational, Unpassable, $4 Trillion Budget
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You can't really believe the claims of a liberal blogger, this is not a real newspaper article, do you know the difference?

Obama's budget larger spending increases, big tax increases, but still increases the budget deficits.

Are you in favor of smaller budget deficits?

GOP budget sets up fight between deficit hawks and defense hawks - The Washington Post

The plan, which pares more than $5 trillion from the federal budget.....Overall, the plan would spend almost $3.8 trillion in 2016, $136 billion less than the current budget envisions. Spending under the GOP plan would rise to more than $4 trillion by fiscal year 2019. It projects revenue of just under $3.5 trillion for the coming fiscal year.

2016 Obama Budget

The 5 Big Asks in President Obama’s Aspirational, Unpassable, $4 Trillion Budget
The Washington Post is a liberal blog now ? The deficit has been decreasing just fine under this President. You accept the proposition of Republicans lying to you. Take one example, their budget recognizes the $900 billion dollars that would be realized if tax cuts were allowed to expire. But, you would have to have been living under a rock not to know that Republicans have REFUSED to allow for tax increases. Counting that $900 billion is fantasy voodoo economics with a heaping helping of hypocrisy.
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The Washington Post is a liberal blog now ? The deficit has been decreasing just fine under this President. You accept the proposition of Republicans lying to you. Take one example, their budget recognizes the $900 billion dollars that would be realized if tax cuts were allowed to expire. But, you would have to have been living under a rock not to know that Republicans have REFUSED to allow for tax increases. Counting that $900 billion is fantasy voodoo economics with a heaping helping of hypocrisy.

What goob posted is an opinion from a hard core liberal that was published in the Washington Post. That is why it is full of wild claims. The Post put a disclaimer as such, it is not newspaper reporting, that is what I posted.

The House GOP budget is a gimmick - The Washington Post


By Dana Milbank Opinion writer

-http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/smoke-mirrors-and-the-house-gop-budget/2015/03/17/eeb06d3c-ccdb-11e4-8c54-ffb5ba6f2f69_story.html-

What is claimed ten years out doesn't even matter, all that matters is that Obama wants to spend over $4 trillion in 2016 and increase the deficit and debt. The GOP budget has $3.8 trillion in spending with a smaller deficit and smaller increase in the debt.
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What goob posted is an opinion from a hard core liberal that was published in the Washington Post. That is why it is full of wild claims. The Post put a disclaimer as such, it is not newspaper reporting, that is what I posted.

The House GOP budget is a gimmick - The Washington Post


By Dana Milbank Opinion writer

-http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/smoke-mirrors-and-the-house-gop-budget/2015/03/17/eeb06d3c-ccdb-11e4-8c54-ffb5ba6f2f69_story.html-

What is claimed ten years out doesn't even matter, all that matters is that Obama wants to spend over $4 trillion in 2016 and increase the deficit and debt. The GOP budget has $3.8 trillion in spending with a smaller deficit and smaller increase in the debt.
Forget about the Wahington Post. What do you have to say about the Republicans counting $900 billion of revenue from tax cuts they will never let expire ? Isn't that nothing but dishonest accounting ?
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Forget about the Wahington Post. What do you have to say about the Republicans counting $900 billion of revenue from tax cuts they will never let expire ? Isn't that nothing but dishonest accounting ?
What are the tax cuts that due to expire and when do they expire?
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What are the tax cuts that due to expire and when do they expire?
Provisions of the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) and the Child Tax Credit (CTC) expire in 2017 amongst other expirations. The Republicans are against their expiration yet they use the revenue from those expirations to the tune of $900 billion to make their budget look better than it is.
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Camelot WANTS MORE US DEBT. why.. because he has a slave mentality.
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