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Old March 27th, 2015, 12:22 PM   #1
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Saudi Arabia and Nukes

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Old March 27th, 2015, 12:34 PM   #2
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Should be interesting to see the Republican reply to the statement, will they approve of a Nation that most of the 9-11 Terrorists came, the home of OBL came from and where a large percentage of the funds for terrorists comes from building their own Bomb? Or will they say no and impose sanctions on SA, ROTFLMAO! As if they even could do such a thing. Yes the Repubs will back it to the hilt and even if they dared say no there would not be a thing they could do about it without cutting their own throats. When you lay down with dogs do not complain later about getting fleas.
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should be interesting to see the republican reply to the statement, will they approve of a nation that most of the 9-11 terrorists came, the home of obl came from and where a large percentage of the funds for terrorists comes from building their own bomb? Or will they say no and impose sanctions on sa, rotflmao! As if they even could do such a thing. Yes the repubs will back it to the hilt and even if they dared say no there would not be a thing they could do about it without cutting their own throats. When you lay down with dogs do not complain later about getting fleas.
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Yeah, Iran gets nukes, the entire Persian Gulf goes nuclear. No one wants Saudi Arabia to have nukes, but if Iran does they will feel the necessity. That is the import here.


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Should be interesting to see the Republican reply to the statement, will they approve of a Nation that most of the 9-11 Terrorists came, the home of OBL came from and where a large percentage of the funds for terrorists comes from building their own Bomb? Or will they say no and impose sanctions on SA, ROTFLMAO! As if they even could do such a thing. Yes the Repubs will back it to the hilt and even if they dared say no there would not be a thing they could do about it without cutting their own throats. When you lay down with dogs do not complain later about getting fleas.
You left out the "supporting Hillary" bit.
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Yeah, Iran gets nukes, the entire Persian Gulf goes nuclear. No one wants Saudi Arabia to have nukes, but if Iran does they will feel the necessity. That is the import here.


Yep, that's the import here. Nobody is threatening North Korea. That's the import here.

The goal of the negotiations is to put a ten-year hiatus on an Iranian bomb. Some here and elsewhere laugh at that idea, saying ten years is no time.

But that's wrong. Ten years is a long time in modern demographics. The number of Iranians who'd just as soon not be under the Mullahs grows.

A demographic play is a risky bet. The alternative is riskier in the short term, quite riskier. Trying to explain the greater risk, truly imminent grave risk that could become reality starting in the next moment, to hardliners of all stripes defines an exercise in futility.
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Yep, that's the import here. Nobody is threatening North Korea. That's the import here.

The goal of the negotiations is to put a ten-year hiatus on an Iranian bomb. Some here and elsewhere laugh at that idea, saying ten years is no time.

But that's wrong. Ten years is a long time in modern demographics. The number of Iranians who'd just as soon not be under the Mullahs grows.

A demographic play is a risky bet. The alternative is riskier in the short term, quite riskier. Trying to explain the greater risk, truly imminent grave risk that could become reality starting in the next moment, to hardliners of all stripes defines an exercise in futility.
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Yep, that's the import here. Nobody is threatening North Korea. That's the import here.

The goal of the negotiations is to put a ten-year hiatus on an Iranian bomb. Some here and elsewhere laugh at that idea, saying ten years is no time.

But that's wrong. Ten years is a long time in modern demographics. The number of Iranians who'd just as soon not be under the Mullahs grows.

A demographic play is a risky bet. The alternative is riskier in the short term, quite riskier. Trying to explain the greater risk, truly imminent grave risk that could become reality starting in the next moment, to hardliners of all stripes defines an exercise in futility.
Looked at in the opposite direction. If Israel bombs Iran, the younger demographic will be totally on board with perfecting a nuke to guarantee that future risk of foreign bombing will decrease significantly. Unfortunately, it was not widely reported but I think Iran said no to the nuclear deal on Thursday.
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Looked at in the opposite direction. If Israel bombs Iran, the younger demographic will be totally on board with perfecting a nuke to guarantee that future risk of foreign bombing will decrease significantly. Unfortunately, it was not widely reported but I think Iran said no to the nuclear deal on Thursday.
The literal cretins who hold back humankind believe that bravery only occurs on a battlefield with lead flying and bombs bursting, that the way forward to peace is through war.

The way forward to peace also can be through negotiations. That way also requires acts of bravery, and more, extensions of mutual trust, literally, acts of valor.

From hardline, aggressive, religion-infused nationalism, or nationalism-infused religion flows all of the world's problems today, and historically too. The adherents of this cult, from Russia to the US to the Middle East and elsewhere, believe one credo should be applied to international relations: my wanger is bigger and harder than yours, so you better watch the f*** out.

And, they'll tell you straight on: We are the ones who are dealing realistically with matters, unlike - ironically - "you liberals."

Isn't that incredible? Whether the US, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the liberals are the problem. Everywhere. If the liberals would just get the hell out of the way and let the hardline realists conduct their wars unfettered by any PC concerns, we'd have law, justice, and above all, peace.

It's a funny kind of peace, though. As Orwell explained in 1949, "War is Peace," a peace that keeps people working, keeps the scientists busy looking for the Final Weapon, keeps the factory wheels well lubricated with fresh red blood.
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The literal cretins who hold back humankind believe that bravery only occurs on a battlefield with lead flying and bombs bursting, that the way forward to peace is through war.

The way forward to peace also can be through negotiations. That way also requires acts of bravery, and more, extensions of mutual trust, literally, acts of valor.

From hardline, aggressive, religion-infused nationalism, or nationalism-infused religion flows all of the world's problems today, and historically too. The adherents of this cult, from Russia to the US to the Middle East and elsewhere, believe one credo should be applied to international relations: my wanger is bigger and harder than yours, so you better watch the f*** out.

And, they'll tell you straight on: We are the ones who are dealing realistically with matters, unlike - ironically - "you liberals."

Isn't that incredible? Whether the US, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the liberals are the problem. Everywhere. If the liberals would just get the hell out of the way and let the hardline realists conduct their wars unfettered by any PC concerns, we'd have law, justice, and above all, peace.

It's a funny kind of peace, though. As Orwell explained in 1949, "War is Peace," a peace that keeps people working, keeps the scientists busy looking for the Final Weapon, keeps the factory wheels well lubricated with fresh red blood.
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