34,000 Black Churches Cut Ties With the Presbyterian Church

excalibur · April 5th, 2015, 10:57 PM

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/34...sa-after-pcusa

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The National Black Church Initiative (NBCI) – a coalition of 34,000 black churches from 15 denominations representing almost 16 million black Americans – has cut all ties with the Presbyterian Church USA (PCUSA) after the denomination voted to embrace same-sex “marriage.”

The PCUSA voted last June to jettison the traditional definition of marriage as a sacred union between one man and one woman. Instead, its Book of Order now defines marriage as a union “between two people,” with no mention of biological sex. At the same time, the PCUSA voted to allow its pastors to officiate at homosexual “weddings” in states where they have been made legal.

These controversial decisions came just three years after a 2011 vote allowing homosexuals who are openly sexually active to be ordained as PCUSA pastors.

The marriage votes were apparently the last straw for the NBCI, which released a prophetic statement, condemning the PCUSA and calling the denomination’s redefinition of marriage a “universal sin” that placed the church's teachings well outside Christ's message.

"NBCI and its membership base are simply standing on the Word of God within the mind of Christ,” said Rev. Anthony Evans, the president of NBCI. “We urge our brothers and sisters of the PCUSA to repent and be restored to fellowship."

"PCUSA's manipulation represents a universal sin against the entire church and its members,” Evans added. “With this action, PCUSA can no longer base its teachings on 2,000 years of Christian scripture and tradition, and call itself a Christian entity in the body of Christ. It has forsaken its right by this single wrong act.”

"Apostle Paul warns us about this when he declared in Galatians 1:8 that there are those who will preach another Gospel,” Evans continued.

"No church has the right to change the Word of God,” Evans said. “By voting to redefine marriage PCUSA automatically forfeits Christ's saving grace.”

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excalibur · April 6th, 2015, 05:32 PM

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tristanrobin · April 6th, 2015, 05:35 PM

well, we all know that Christ died on the cross so Christians wouldn't have to bake homos cakes.

Nwolfe35 · April 6th, 2015, 06:39 PM

From the NBCI website:

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NBCI Civil Society Initiative
A civil society lifts everyone to the same level of humanity, and forces people to deal with each other’s humanity. Our ultimate goal is to erase human prejudice, discrimination, hatred and especially violence. This project compels the Black Church to go against the grain, and not be afraid to speak to the most powerful institution or individual. It will also require the Black Church to correct any level of ignorance and engage into conversation in order to transfer hate filled language into words of healing and dialog.

And yet here they are condemning the Presbyterian church for dealing with the humanity of gay people, attempting to erase human prejudice, discrimination and hatred. They condemn the Presbyterian church for "going against the grain" and for not being "afraid to speak to the most powerful institution or individual"

The NBCI's entire statement about Civil Society Initiative needs a giant asterisk...

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* Except in cases of gay people

TNVolunteer73 · April 6th, 2015, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nwolfe35

From the NBCI website:

And yet here they are condemning the Presbyterian church for dealing with the humanity of gay people, attempting to erase human prejudice, discrimination and hatred. They condemn the Presbyterian church for "going against the grain" and for not being "afraid to speak to the most powerful institution or individual"

The NBCI's entire statement about Civil Society Initiative needs a giant asterisk...

no they are condemning the church for condoning sin.

I believe seeing the humanity in all sinners, but not to condone sin.

waitingtables · April 7th, 2015, 04:17 AM

Does the NBCI prevent those who are divorced from occupying their pews? Because Jesus was pretty clear about that type of sin....I wonder how many of the leaders of the NBCI are themselves divorced?

waitingtables · April 7th, 2015, 04:20 AM

And BTW, every church that has had the opportunity to, has in fact changed the word of God over two thousand years. Seriously. WTF is wrong with these all forgiving, all loving Christians? Those who don't love all and forgive all and still pretend they have any standing to point out sin in others...seriously?

skews13 · April 7th, 2015, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by waitingtables

Does the NBCI prevent those who are divorced from occupying their pews? Because Jesus was pretty clear about that type of sin....I wonder how many of the leaders of the NBCI are themselves divorced?

Or have multiple children with multiple unmarried partners.

excalibur · April 7th, 2015, 10:09 AM

Good to see people discussing sin, of which sodomy is amongst the worst of sins. Cries out to Heaven in fact.

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waitingtables · April 7th, 2015, 10:10 AM

Yeah, not really....

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waitingtables Eyes Wide Open Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 44,991	Does the NBCI prevent those who are divorced from occupying their pews? Because Jesus was pretty clear about that type of sin....I wonder how many of the leaders of the NBCI are themselves divorced? Thanks from imaginethat and skews13

April 7th, 2015, 04:20 AM	#7
waitingtables Eyes Wide Open Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 44,991	And BTW, every church that has had the opportunity to, has in fact changed the word of God over two thousand years. Seriously. WTF is wrong with these all forgiving, all loving Christians? Those who don't love all and forgive all and still pretend they have any standing to point out sin in others...seriously? Thanks from tristanrobin

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