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Old May 8th, 2015, 12:05 AM   #1
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DEA Steals $16,000 In Cash From Young Black Man,

Because He Must Be A Drug Dealer

DEA Steals $16,000 In Cash From Young Black Man, Because He Must Be A Drug Dealer

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After scraping together enough money to produce a music video in Hollywood, 22-year-old Joseph Rivers set out last month on a train trip from Michigan to Los Angeles, hoping it was the start of something big.

Before he made it to California, however, Rivers fell victim to a legal form of government highway robbery.

Rivers changed trains at the Amtrak station in Albuquerque, New Mexico, on April 15, with bags containing his clothes, other possessions and an envelope filled with the $16,000 in cash he had raised with the help of his family, the Albuquerque Journal reports. Agents with the Drug Enforcement Administration got on after him and began looking for people who might be trafficking drugs.

Rivers said the agents questioned passengers at random, asking for their destination and reason for travel. When one of the agents got to Rivers, who was the only black person in his car, according to witnesses, the agent took the interrogation further, asking to search his bags. Rivers complied. The agent found the cash -- still in a bank envelope -- and decided to seize it on suspicion that it may be tied to narcotics. River pleaded with the agents, explaining his situation and even putting his mother on the phone to verify the story.

No luck.

“These officers took everything that I had worked so hard to save and even money that was given to me by family that believed in me,” Rivers told the Journal. “I told (the DEA agents) I had no money and no means to survive in Los Angeles if they took my money. They informed me that it was my responsibility to figure out how I was going to do that.”

Rivers, who has since returned to Michigan, fell victim to civil asset forfeiture, a legal tool that has been criticized as a violation of due process and a contradiction of the idea that criminal defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Asset forfeiture allows police to seize property they suspect is related to criminal activity, without even charging its owner with a crime. The charges are filed against the property itself -- including cash, jewelry, cars and houses -- which can then be sold, with part of the proceeds flowing back to the department that made the seizure.

“We don’t have to prove that the person is guilty,” Sean Waite, the agent in charge at the DEA's Albuquerque's office, told the Journal. “It’s that the money is presumed to be guilty.”

The burden of proof lies with those whose property is taken, who often are forced to wage costly court battles to prove they came by their possessions legally.
OMG.....being robbed by the government at gunpoint. WTF is the matter with this nation? We have less freedoms than those in China and Russia.
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Yeah, this sort of thing only happens to black men.

Civil asset forfeiture has been discussed here before. But not with the race angle you are so very fond of.


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Yeah, this sort of thing only happens to black men.


Seriously? Really? Do show the links which support this.
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LOL

Here's one, wow! that was hard.

This has to stop


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LOL

Nah, you can find 'em. But your race baiting is old.


You're the one who brought up race. And I guess it was a lie cuz you aren't providing truth.

The article talks about the feds being able to confiscate your money. Your response is racial slurring. You really are nothing more than an uneducated troll.
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You're the one who brought up race.

Uhhhhh, your thread, and the title is? Hint: DEA Steals $16,000 In Cash From Young Black Man,


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And I guess it was a lie cuz you aren't providing truth.

Heh, you jumped as I thought you would, and make your usual dumb remark. But I linked one in the above post.


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Uhhhhh, your thread, and the title is?





Heh, you jumped as I thought you would, and make your usual dumb remark. But I linked one in the above post.


The title is stealing from a black man. But reading the article indicates the focus is on the federal government's right to take your money without due process. the fact you missed that is on you.

So you have not truth in your statement about this being done only to blacks? You have no interest in having a discussion about the feds DEA taking money? You just wanted to see me respond? And you didn't care what I responded with, you were just going to keep trolling and ignoring the discussion? Tell me; why are you posting on a forum where defending the truth is the name of the game?
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The title is stealing from a black man. But reading the article indicates the focus is on the federal government's right to take your money without due process. the fact you missed that is on you.

I know all about civil asset forfeiture . The states do it too. We discussed it here before, but only you thought raising the matter of race was important to the issue, as the title makes clear. As usual for your race baiting career.


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I know all about civil asset forfeiture . The states do it too. We discussed it here before, but only you thought raising the matter of race was important to the issue, as the title makes clear. As usual for your race baiting career.


I didn't write the article title. And your focus solely on racial aspects of any discussion belies a person fixated with racial issues.

I have attempted to direct your discussion on this issue and all you do is troll your point that you just made a comment to see my reaction. That's pretty pathetic to admit; that I have that much power over you on this discussion board.

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I didn't write the article title. And your focus solely on racial aspects of any discussion belies a person fixated with racial issues.

You mention race multiple times every day. That is what you do. I don't care who wrote the article's title, you wrote the thread title. You are a race baiter, it is what you do constantly.


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