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Old May 22nd, 2015, 04:46 AM   #1
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Molestation Is Punishable - Unless You're Christian

A question to the Christian Right: Is sexual molestation a punishable offense that can be waived if God forgives you ?

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Josh Duggar Apologizes After Child Molestation Allegations Surface

Josh Duggar has apologized following reports that he was investigated for allegedly sexually molesting five underage girls, some of whom are his sisters.

In an statement posted on Facebook on Thursday, the 27-year-old who appears on TLC's "19 Kids and Counting," wrote:

Twelve years ago, as a young teenager I acted inexcusably for which I am extremely sorry and deeply regret. I hurt others, including my family and close friends. I confessed this to my parents who took several steps to help me address the situation. We spoke with the authorities where I confessed my wrongdoing and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive counseling. I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life. I sought forgiveness from those I had wronged and asked Christ to forgive me and come into my life. I would do anything to go back to those teen years and take different actions. In my life today, I am so very thankful for Godís grace, mercy and redemption.

According to police reports obtained by In Touch, family patriarch Jim Bob Duggar allegedly waited more than a year before he turned in his then-teenage son over to Arkansas State Police for sex offenses, including forcible fondling. Due to a strange turn of events, the magazine reported that police were unable to conclude their investigation of the case, and the three-year statute of limitations prevented them from further pursuing any charges.

Today, Josh Duggar is married with with three children and a fourth due in July. The Washington Post reports he has now resigned as executive director of Tony Perkins' conservative and anti-gay group, Family Research Council Action.

Josh's parents Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar also addressed the allegations on Facebook on Thursday:

Back 12 years ago our family went through one of the most difficult times of our lives. When Josh was a young teenager, he made some very bad mistakes and we were shocked. We had tried to teach him right from wrong. That dark and difficult time caused us to seek God like never before. Even though we would never choose to go through something so terrible, each one of our family members drew closer to God. We pray that as people watch our lives they see that we are not a perfect family. We have challenges and struggles everyday. It is one of the reasons we treasure our faith so much because Godís kindness and goodness and forgiveness are extended to us ó even though we are so undeserving. We hope somehow the story of our journey ó the good times and the difficult times ó cause you to see the kindness of God and learn that He can bring you through anything.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 04:59 AM   #2
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a christian who fully repents before God for any sin should welcome any punishment imposed by civil, secular authority as part of his penance.

see my apology and or forgiveness discussion.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 05:20 AM   #3
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a christian who fully repents before God for any sin should welcome any punishment imposed by civil, secular authority as part of his penance.

see my apology and or forgiveness discussion.
Oh really, seems Christian father Jim Bob waited a full year before he went to authorities after learning of his son Josh's molestation career. And when he did finally go to the the authorities, he chose to go to this long time friend;

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When Josh returned from his time with the mentor in Little Rock, father Jim Bob along with a group of church elders took Josh to talk to Arkansas State Trooper, Jim Hutchens, a personal friend of Jim Bob's. Hutchens took no official action and apparently made no report of the incident but rather had a "stern talk" with Josh.

Alas, former state trooper Hutchens is now serving hard time on child pornography charges. He was originally sent to prison two years after the stern talk, released and then convicted again in 2010. He is currently serving a 56 year term. So he may not have been the best person to have Josh talk to.
Duggar Family Spawn/Family Research Council Top Lobbyist Resigns over Molestation Charges

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Old May 22nd, 2015, 06:03 AM   #4
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the only perfect example for any christian is Jesus.

so, what's your point? I don't get it.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 06:18 AM   #5
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the only perfect example for any christian is Jesus.

so, what's your point? I don't get it.
"The only perfect example for any Christian is Jesus" ? Really ? Not according to the Duggar's. They speak for Tony Perkin's Family Research Council. You know, the group that claims that gay folks threaten the fabric of America. Look at what the Duggar's had to say about the gay lifestyle and the future of American children and take note of the utter hypocrisy;

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Duggar’s group, the Family Research Council, regularly paints the LGBT community as a precarious threat to children, and he and his family have participated in that rhetoric.

Last December, Duggar led a successful campaign to defeat a LGBT nondiscrimination measure in Fayetteville, Arkansas, which he said jeopardized the safety of children during an interview on the FRC radio program “Washington Watch”:

Duggar also said that opposing the nondiscrimination ordinance as a sign of “love” to the gay community, which he accused of trying to “silence” its critics.

Michelle Duggar also ran a robocall pushing for the repeal of the city’s nondiscrimination ordinance, which she warned would empower “child predators” to threaten “the safety and innocence of a child.”
Flashback: Duggars Call LGBT People A Threat To Child Safety; Duggar Resigns From FRC | Right Wing Watch
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there is no doubt that there is a political aggressive movement by some homosexuals to undermine traditional america.

what has this to do with Jesus being the only perfect man? I don't get it.
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there is no doubt that there is a political aggressive movement by some homosexuals to undermine traditional america.

what has this to do with Jesus being the only perfect man? I don't get it.
The Duggar's hid their sons molestation for a year. Then they go to a family friend in law enforcement who didn't even write a report and who himself is now serving time in prison for child pornography. All the while, the Duggar's are making speeches and placing robocalls for Tony Perkins claiming that gays are child predators. They aren't waiting for Jesus to pass judgement on gays the way they do for their own son molesting children. This encapsulates everything I think of the religious Right. They are nothing but duplicitous, disingenuous, hypocritical sinners that love to cast judgement on everyone else for the very sins that they themselves commit. You and people like you are phony. Don't EVER think you fool anyone who's not a bitter, Right wing robot.
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The Duggar's hid their sons molestation for a year. Then they go to a family friend in law enforcement who didn't even write a report and who himself is now serving time in prison for child pornography. All the while, the Duggar's are making speeches and placing robocalls for Tony Perkins claiming that gays are child predators. They aren't waiting for Jesus to pass judgement on gays the way they do for their own son molesting children. This encapsulates everything I think of the religious Right. They are nothing but duplicitous, disingenuous, hypocritical sinners that love to cast judgement on everyone else for the very sins that they themselves commit. You and people like you are phony. Don't EVER think you fool anyone who's not a bitter, Right wing robot.
Dammit Camelot, chill a little for your own sake.
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Dammit Camelot, chill a little for your own sake.
Sorry, I disagree with your assessment. This goes to the very crux of the problem in this country IMO. The Right wing is preoccupied with eviscerating the reputation and moral compass of practically everyone on the Left. In this case the Duggar's are out their claiming that gays are child predators by definition while they hid their son's ACTUAL molestation. This goes to what the Right wing is all about in a nation that their reckless vitriol has so divided. I'm tired of the hypocrisy. They have seriously hurt this country with their hate IMO. If you can't get angry about that, then you're just not truly alive IMO.
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Sorry, I disagree with your assessment. This goes to the very crux of the problem in this country IMO. The Right wing is preoccupied with eviscerating the reputation and moral compass of practically everyone on the Left. In this case the Duggar's are out their claiming that gays are child predators by definition while they hid their son's ACTUAL molestation. This goes to what the Right wing is all about in a nation that their reckless vitriol has so divided. I'm tired of the hypocrisy. They have seriously hurt this country with their hate IMO. If you can't get angry about that, then you're just not truly alive IMO.
I love the way they paint gays as predators but their son 'made mistakes'!

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