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Old June 10th, 2015, 10:03 AM   #1
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Feds Want Names of Online Commenters ....

.... who trashed the Silk Road judge.

The Government Wants Names of Online Commenters Who Trashed the Silk Road Judge | Motherboard

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The Department of Justice has ordered libertarian website Reason.com to turn over the information of six commenters after they made threats against the federal judge who presided over the Silk Road trial.

Ken White of the blog Popehat obtained the grand jury subpoena issued by the Department of Justice last week, which demands "any and all identifying information” the website has pertaining to the threatening commenters. This includes email addresses, telephone numbers, IP addresses, and billing information associated with the accounts.

The subpoena targets users who commented on an article published on May 31st regarding a letter from Ross Ulbricht, the creator of online drug market Silk Road, pleading for leniency ahead of his sentencing for charges surrounding the site. The comments appeared after Judge Katherine Forrest gave Ulbricht two life sentences for his crimes.

“It’s judges like these that should be taken out back and shot,” a user named Agammamon wrote, according to the filing.

“It’s judges like these that will be taken out back and shot. FTFY [fixed that for you].” a user named Alan replied (emphasis in the subpoena). Another user added: “Why do it out back? Shoot them out front, on the steps of the courthouse.”

According to the subpoena, representatives from the Reason.com were compelled to appear in a New York court Tuesday at 10 AM ET if it did not produce the requested documents before then. It is unclear if they appeared in court or gave upany information they might have about users, as Reason.com declined Motherboard’s request for comment.



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On Friday Ulbricht was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for his role in creating and running Silk Road’s billion-dollar, anonymous black market for drugs.
Silk Road Creator Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison | WIRED

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John Oliver: How Big Pharma Makes Doctors Into Drug Pushers [Video] - Food Revolution Network

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Vioxx, and Bruce Jenner, and Dorothy Hamill, pushing it. How many died due to Vioxx?

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2015/m...-jenners-forte

Anyway, the OP is about the feds demanding names of online commenters.


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Vioxx, and Bruce Jenner, and Dorothy Hammel, pushing it. How many died due to Vioxx?

Making Wise Medical Decisions is Not Bruce Jenner?s Forte - Crisis Magazine

Anyway, the OP is about the feds demanding names of online commenters.
Over Ulbricht's sentencing to life in prison.

Drug overdose death rates in the United States have more than tripled since 1990 and have never been higher. At least 100 people die from drug overdoses every day in the U.S. More than 36,000 people die from drug overdoses annually and most of these deaths are caused by prescription drugs.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...y-street-drugs

There are More Deaths from Legal Drugs than Illegal Drugs
Legal Drugs vs. Illegal Drugs: Are we fighting the Right War?

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This one at least is responding to someone issuing direct threats, even if it is on a message board where hyperbole tends to be endemic.

Making deleting your browser history illegal is still a far greater assault to civil rights, IMO.
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"There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live—did live, from habit that became instinct—in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized."

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"There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live—did live, from habit that became instinct—in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized."

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This one at least is responding to someone issuing direct threats, even if it is on a message board where hyperbole tends to be endemic.

Making deleting your browser history illegal is still a far greater assault to civil rights, IMO.
Lynch is a day late and a dollar short in this regard. On June 1, the Supreme Court addressed online threats with Elonis v. United States, and ruled that to convict under 18 U.S.C. § 875(c), there needs to be proof of "subjective intent to threaten." There was no direct threat as that requires the person making the threat to make an explicit and specific threat to a specific person or target. What a reasonable person may construe as a threat is not good enough. I believe that Reason.com should be able to get the subpoena squashed using Elonis v. United States, and a First Amendment challenge.
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