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Old June 26th, 2015, 12:22 AM   #21
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Now that is an offensive flag. You would not believe how many times I have seen my ship have to pile garbage on the fantail because some garbage scow rust bucket was following us flying that damned flag.

Please note...the above was in the way of comic relief. I do not support censorship or banning or anything for any reason (not directly related to personal health and safety...and that may be too broad an exception).

I also don't think the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia CAUSED a damn thing. What happened to personal responsibility? Roof could have just as easily been wrapping himself in religion as well. That is a popular refuge for these types. Maybe it would have been better if he had...then the calls would have been to eliminate religion instead of a piece of cloth that means only what you attribute to it.

Oddly, I think what is happening regarding the flag is very much like the process that got us into Iraq with such high approval initially. The herd got stirred up and panicked over what they were told was a threat. Of course, writ small but the same phenomenon. The interesting thing about this is that once the herd started moving everyone in it STOPPED thinking.

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No, this is different. This flag surfaced in the early 1950's in a protest against segregation and human rights for blacks. It is flown as a symbol of racism and nothing more. Its history is that of oppression and death of American citizens by lynching. It must not be displayed in public places. If businesses don't want to offend their black customers, they can remove it. It has no redeeming qualities other than to support white boy ideas that they are superior to black men. It has no place in our country.
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No, this is different. This flag surfaced in the early 1950's in a protest against segregation and human rights for blacks. It is flown as a symbol of racism and nothing more. Its history is that of oppression and death of American citizens by lynching. It must not be displayed in public places. If businesses don't want to offend their black customers, they can remove it. It has no redeeming qualities other than to support white boy ideas that they are superior to black men. It has no place in our country.
That is not why the flag "surfaced in the early 1950s."
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That is not why the flag "surfaced in the early 1950s."
Fine. Then tell us why is did.
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Fine. Then tell us why is did.
Because it was another round of the federal government's taking away the rights of the states and dividing the nation, and it was symbolic of that, and a form of resistance to that. Sort of like what has happened this week.
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Because it was another round of the federal government's taking away the rights of the states and dividing the nation, and it was symbolic of that, and a form of resistance to that. Sort of like what has happened this week.
Ah, so it WAS indeed all about civil rights.
Thought so.
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Ah, so it WAS indeed all about civil rights.
Thought so.
I didn't say that nor did I imply that. Up your game beyond the capabilities of a car tire before attempting another one of your obtuse semantics engagements.
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I didn't say that nor did I imply that. Up your game beyond the capabilities of a car tire before attempting another one of your obtuse semantics engagements.
No, I said it. You simply confirmed I was correct, whether you realize that or not.
What was particularly obtuse about my statement, it was quite clear and understandable.
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No, I said it. You simply confirmed I was correct, whether you realize that or not.
What was particularly obtuse about my statement, it was quite clear and understandable.
I didn't say that nor did I imply that. Up your game beyond the capabilities of a car tire before attempting another one of your obtuse semantics engagements.
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I didn't say that nor did I imply that. Up your game beyond the capabilities of a car tire before attempting another one of your obtuse semantics engagements.
What was obtuse about my statement?
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What was obtuse about my statement?
I didn't say that nor did I imply that. Up your game beyond the capabilities of a car tire before attempting another one of your obtuse semantics engagements.
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