The Kate Steinle Murder and the Scum Sheriff

excalibur · July 19th, 2015, 12:38 PM

San Francisco Sheriff ORDERED No Communication With ICE | The Daily Caller

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San Francisco’s progressive sheriff, Ross Mirkarimi, issued a memo in March barring deputies from communicating with federal immigration agents, the sheriff’s deputy’s union revealed earlier this week.

According to the San Francisco Chronicle, Mirkarimi issued the memo on March 13, about a month before the sheriff’s department released Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez, an illegal alien from Mexico who has used more than 30 aliases since first entering the U.S. in 1991 and has been deported five times.

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U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) had issued a detainer request to the sheriff’s department asking to be notified before Lopez-Sanchez’s release. The sheriff’s department declined to honor that request because of San Francisco’s sanctuary city laws.

But Mirkarimi’s March 13 memo went even beyond the city’s statute.

In it, Mirkarimi called for “limited contact and communication with ICE representatives absent a court-issued warrant, a signed court order, or other legal requirement authorizing ICE access.”

According to The Los Angeles Times, Mirkarimi’s directive was stricter than the city’s 2013 Due Process for All ordinance. That prohibited sheriff’s deputies from holding illegal aliens in jail on behalf of federal immigration agencies past their official release date except in cases involving certain felons. Mirkarimi memo prohibited deputies from communicating to ICE that the department would not hold Lopez-Sanchez.

The San Francisco Deputy Sheriffs’ Association called on Mirkarimi to rescind the memo saying that it “recklessly compromises the safety of sworn personnel, citizens, and those who merely come to visit the San Francisco area.

The union’s attorney, Peter Hoffman, told The L.A. Times that Mirkarimi’s memo “absolutely modifies” the relationship between ICE and San Francisco sheriff’s deputies. He told The Times that before the memo there had been “some level of communication” between the two agencies.

“I can tell you the sheriff did change policy effective March of this year to effectively eliminate communication with ICE altogether, and that is the change in working conditions that we’re focused on,” Hoffman said.

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nuttyjoe · July 19th, 2015, 01:51 PM

The "scum" as I see it, is the Congress which demagogues the whole issue of immigration; but does nothing to solve it- on both sides!

excalibur · July 19th, 2015, 01:54 PM

And unless any and all illegals, including into the forever future, are given amnesty, these sanctuary cities will continue to give sanctuary to illegals. Nice try joe, no cigar.

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nuttyjoe · July 19th, 2015, 03:02 PM

So what brilliant idea on how to solve the immigration issue are you- and your political favorites offer us? Considering that the Repubs have the majority in both houses of Congress, this should be very easy for them to do; and you to answer.

excalibur · July 19th, 2015, 03:10 PM

This is about the fools with their sanctuary cities. This is about a scum sheriff and his actions that resulted in a murder.

We don't need more laws. Enforce the laws on the books. Period. We need a POTUS that will do that. Enforcement falls to the Executive Branch.

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goober · July 19th, 2015, 03:45 PM

In San Francisco they won't hold people without a warrant or probable cause.
Something about America and the Constitution...
If ICE wanted this guy, they needed to get a warrant.

Jimmyb · July 19th, 2015, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by goober

In San Francisco they won't hold people without a warrant or probable cause.
Something about America and the Constitution...
If ICE wanted this guy, they needed to get a warrant.

What is probable cause?

caconservative · July 19th, 2015, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nuttyjoe

The "scum" as I see it, is the Congress which demagogues the whole issue of immigration; but does nothing to solve it- on both sides!

Solve what?? We have immigration laws. Obimbo is the head of the Executive branch charged with executing those laws. Instead we get sanctuary cities who flaunt Federal law, and we get dead legal citizens. Obimbo should be impeached.

nuttyjoe · July 19th, 2015, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by caconservative

Solve what?? We have immigration laws. Obimbo is the head of the Executive branch charged with executing those laws. Instead we get sanctuary cities who flaunt Federal law, and we get dead legal citizens. Obimbo should be impeached.

So, put all you legal expertise together and start charging the " criminals" as you see them.
Wait. Why haven't you done this? Why hasn't the Repub Congress even addressed this?
They can't! They need something to demagogue on- even though they are as much of the problem in not doing so! It's easier to just blame Obama, right? Even though he has deported more illegal immigrants than all 43 Presidents before him- combined!

Beasty · July 19th, 2015, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nuttyjoe

so, put all you legal expertise together and start charging the " criminals" as you see them.
Wait. Why haven't you done this? Why hasn't the repub congress even addressed this?
They can't! They need something to demagogue on- even though they are as much of the problem in not doing so! It's easier to just blame obama, right? Even though he has deported more illegal immigrants than all 43 presidents before him- combined!

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July 19th, 2015, 01:51 PM	#2
nuttyjoe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wilmette. Illinois Posts: 3,874	The "scum" as I see it, is the Congress which demagogues the whole issue of immigration; but does nothing to solve it- on both sides! Thanks from roastpork

July 19th, 2015, 03:10 PM	#5
excalibur Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: The Milky Way Posts: 24,581	This is about the fools with their sanctuary cities. This is about a scum sheriff and his actions that resulted in a murder. We don't need more laws. Enforce the laws on the books. Period. We need a POTUS that will do that. Enforcement falls to the Executive Branch.  Thanks from roastpork, caconservative and kbear

July 19th, 2015, 03:45 PM	#6
goober Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: massachusetts Posts: 10,702	In San Francisco they won't hold people without a warrant or probable cause. Something about America and the Constitution... If ICE wanted this guy, they needed to get a warrant. Thanks from nuttyjoe

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excalibur Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: The Milky Way Posts: 24,581	And unless any and all illegals, including into the forever future, are given amnesty, these sanctuary cities will continue to give sanctuary to illegals. Nice try joe, no cigar. 

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nuttyjoe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wilmette. Illinois Posts: 3,874	So what brilliant idea on how to solve the immigration issue are you- and your political favorites offer us? Considering that the Repubs have the majority in both houses of Congress, this should be very easy for them to do; and you to answer.