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Old February 18th, 2016, 09:51 AM   #1
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Cliven Bundy, 4 others face federal indictment in Nevada

The Feds are calling the Bundy Gang to the carpet.

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Ammon Bundy, brother Ryan Bundy, Ryan Payne and Peter Santilli -- already indicted in the armed takeover of a federal wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon -- now face federal indictment along with Cliven Bundy in the 2014 armed standoff near the Bundy ranch in Nevada.

The indictment charges the four with 16 felonies: one count of conspiring to commit an offense against the United States, one count of conspiring to impede or injure a federal officer, four counts of carrying a firearm in a crime of violence, two counts of assault on a federal officer, two counts of threatening a federal law enforcement officer, three counts of obstructing justice, two counts of interfering with interstate commerce by extortion and one count of interstate travel in aid of extortion.

It also levels five counts of criminal forfeiture against each defendant. If convicted of the offenses, they would have to forfeit property obtained from the proceeds of their crimes, totaling at least $3 million, including cattle at the so-called Bunkerville Allotment and Lake Mead National Recreational Area in Nevada. They also would have to forfeit firearms and ammunition used in the April 12, 2014, standoff with federal authorities.

"The rule of law has been reaffirmed with these charges,'' said Nevada's U.S. Attorney Daniel G. Bogden in a prepared statement. "Persons who use force and violence against federal law enforcement officers who are enforcing court orders and nearly causing catastrophic loss of life or injury to others, will be brought to justice.''

The elder Bundy, 69, of Bunkerville, Nevada, his sons, Ammon E. Bundy, 40, of Emmet, Idaho, and Ryan C. Bundy, 43, of Mesquite, Nevada, as well as Ryan W. Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Montana, and Peter T. Santilli, Jr., 50, of Cincinnati, remain in custody in Portland.

"This indictment sends a resounding message to those who wish to participate in violent acts that our resolve to pursue them and enforce the law remains unwavering," said Nevada's FBI Special Agent in Charge Laura Bucheit.
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First, good. But why so long for charges to be laid? I can't really see a legal or investigative reason for the delay. Is it to give a chance for the emotion and strong feelings to dissipate?
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First, good. But why so long for charges to be laid? I can't really see a legal or investigative reason for the delay. Is it to give a chance for the emotion and strong feelings to dissipate?
They have them in custody now. What would they have done if they indicted them earlier and start the clock running ? Storm the Bundy ranch ? That's precisely why good old Cliven was refused bail the other day. It would just lead to another standoff.
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They have them in custody now. What would they have done if they indicted them earlier and start the clock running ? Storm the Bundy ranch ? That's precisely why good old Cliven was refused bail the other day. It would just lead to another standoff.
Yep, who knows what would have happened if the Bundy's hadn't decided to push their luck? According to Cliven, he was getting his orders from the Big Guy in the Sky.''

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After the BLM announced that it would release the gathered cattle, Bundy demanded that the county sheriff disarm the National Park Service "at Lake Mead and Red Rock park and all other parks where the federal government claims they have jurisdiction over." He requested that the arms be delivered within one hour.[ Bundy further demanded that county bulldozers or loaders be used to "tear down that entrance places where they ticket us and where they injure us and make us citizens pay their fees." The demands, which he described as a "mandate from we the people", were not met.

Bundy made similar statements two days later when he appeared on Glenn Beck's radio show and the Fox News program Hannity. He reiterated the demands on Sean Hannity's program: "The demand on the sheriff was de-arm the Park Service rangers, and de-arm Red Rock rangers ó that's two parks very close to the Lake Mead area. And then the demand was, tear down the toll booth shacks." After expressing disappointment that the demands had not been met, he requested to "every county sheriff across the United States" that they "disarm the federal bureaucrats."

Bundy is reported to have described these demands as "a revelation that I received."[According to Esquire, Bundy told a crowd, "The good Lord said, ĎBundy, itís not your job, itís their job.í ... This morning, I said a prayer, and this is what I received. I heard a voice say, 'Sheriff Gillespie, your work is not done. Every sheriff across the United States, take the guns away from the United States bureaucrats."
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The Gaspee Affair.
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The Gaspee Affair.
Please explain the relevance of the Gaspee Affair to the Bundy Affair.
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Early days of revolution are in the air.


Really?
Do you think an armed throng will storm the courthouse and free the Bundys?
Or will the revolution be limited to virulent posts in forums like this?
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Early days of revolution are in the air.


If the leaders of your revolution aren't markedly smarter than the Bundy's, then your revolution is over before it begins. Those Einsteins are supposedly against government tyranny, gun confiscation and think "the negroes" would be better off if they were still picking cotton. Due to their recent actions, they surrendered their freedom entirely, surrendered their weapons and are working kitchen detail with "the negroes". Let's just say your movement hasn't found it's General Washington just yet.

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