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Old November 12th, 2016, 05:04 PM   #1
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China warns Trump against abandoning climate change deal

Further evidence that this deal is all tilted towards the ChiComms benefit. Screw them. The big lie of AGW.

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China has warned Donald Trump that he will be defying the wishes of the entire planet if he acts on his vow to back away from the Paris climate agreement after he becomes US president next January.

In a sign of how far the world has shifted in recognising the need to tackle global warming, Beijing — once seen as an obstructive force in UN climate talks — is now leading the push for progress by responding to fears that Mr Trump would pull the US out of the landmark accord.

“It is global society’s will that all want to co-operate to combat climate change,” a senior Beijing negotiator said in Marrakesh on Friday, at the first round of UN talks since the Paris deal was sealed last December. The Chinese negotiators added that “any movement by the new US government” would not affect their transition towards becoming a greener economy.

India also joined in the warnings, saying Mr Trump’s appointment would force countries to reassess an accord hailed as an end to the fossil fuel era.


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Old November 12th, 2016, 06:23 PM   #2
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Further evidence that this deal is all tilted towards the ChiComms benefit. Screw them. The big lie of AGW.




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China will be warning Trump about a lot of things because he owes them.

Just like the Russians.

It's just a matter of how much we find out out how much of the country he sells out to them in is one term.
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Old November 12th, 2016, 06:35 PM   #3
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China will be warning Trump about a lot of things because he owes them.

Just like the Russians.

It's just a matter of how much we find out out how much of the country he sells out to them in is one term.
Besides, God forbid the US should assume a leadership role in reducing emissions when there's so damned much money to be made otherwise.
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CO2 is not a problem at these levels.


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I'm pretty sure this is about the fact that, due to this deal, the United States has to limit its industry whereas the Chinese do whatever they want, because they don't actually follow the agreement.
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CO2 is not a problem at these levels.


You can't know that.
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I'm pretty sure this is about the fact that, due to this deal, the United States has to limit its industry whereas the Chinese do whatever they want, because they don't actually follow the agreement.
You've seen pictures of Chinese cities.



They can't do what they want. They have no choice but to reduce emissions. We have a choice, a chance to lead, to show the world the way forward.
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They can't do what they want. They have no choice but to reduce emissions. We have a choice, a chance to lead, to show the world the way forward.
I have, but, that doesn't change the fact that the industry needs to keep making products to survive, and industry also has the terrible side effect of producing emissions as well.
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I have, but, that doesn't change the fact that the industry needs to keep making products to survive, and industry also has the terrible side effect of producing emissions as well.
Yeah, stone age industry powered by coal.

WTF? You seem to enjoy hammering the old folks, yet the old folks kind of industry was and is primitive

Just to make sure I understand where you are coming from, do you believe making a profit with highly polluting industrial processes is just fine as long as China is doing the same? That we should let China set the bar for acceptable levels of pollution?
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Yeah, stone age industry powered by coal.

WTF? You seem to enjoy hammering the old folks, yet the old folks kind of industry was and is primitive

Just to make sure I understand where you are coming from, do you believe making a profit with highly polluting industrial processes is just fine as long as China is doing the same? That we should let China set the bar for acceptable levels of pollution?
No, of course not. I'm saying that to change the industry would be on the scale of the Industrial, or the Agricultural, Revolution. It's a complete gamechanger on how we do things.
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