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Old February 12th, 2017, 02:32 PM   #31
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Well for starters it adds another layer. Now you would be forcing really good fake passports. As opposed to just hiding them in unvetted refugees. So it seems to me, your saying well hell since a few can get ahold of really good fake passports, lets just let all the refugees an everyone else in.
No one is saying that. Of course vetting is needed. But a total ban will not work.

And what is "extreme vetting" other than a stupid phrase Trump uses to make you cream your jeans.
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No one is saying that. Of course vetting is needed. But a total ban will not work.

And what is "extreme vetting" other than a stupid phrase Trump uses to make you cream your jeans.
Seems to me extreme vetting could be a bunch of things. Staggering time tables of when people are let in for starters. Nothing fucks up a plan like a screwed up time table. Treating them like a parolee. Make them check in. Of course this is going to increase cost as well. Maybe the best solution is to just stop taking refugees, work with the $$$$ ME nations to make refugee camps over there.
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During the job interview, extreme vetting is used by the interviewer. I beat a physicist who once worked at Fermi Lab for an entry level electro-mechanical job. I asked the boss why did you hire me over him? The boss said he will only stay here until he finds a better job.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 05:47 PM   #34
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When I joined this forum in 2010, Dusty's subhead under his screen name was "I'm not a troll."

The Dusty phenomenon has been ongoing for a while. His misspellings often don't make any sense.

But whoever Dusty is, even if he's who he presents himself to be, he's cool, and doesn't break any rules, and isn't an asshole.
On occation he submits well formed paragraphs. I have no idea what is going on over there.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 06:03 PM   #35
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On occation he submits well formed paragraphs. I have no idea what is going on over there.
Dusty confuses profit with prophet and when I pointed it out he kept spelling it profit when he meant prophet. Sometimes I intentionally misspell dilemma and spell it delemma.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 06:09 PM   #36
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Seems to me then your kind of making an argument for the travel ban.
Just goes to show you, things aren't always the way they seem.

People's fears are allayed by walls and travel bans, but it's a false security.

I'm saying, any person or group outside of our country that's determined to inflict harm within our country will find a way in, forged documents and tunnels being two ways.

By the grace of God, or damned good luck, we haven't had anything to equal 911, yet we've been wide open since that day, and before it.
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yeah yeah your right about the rules part. Its still not the same dusty. I remember dusty had problems with figuring some stuff out and would ask how. Seems to me someone could have took advantage and said hey let me log in with your name an sort it out. But, yeah none of the "new" dusty posts break the rules got it. I just think something is rotten and it seems to me dusty account got hjacked in some way. No, I can not prove it for certain, but you an I both know dusty posts 180 degrees different than a month or so ago. Dont know dusty, but from the earlier posts, I just think its kind of rotten to do that to him/her if that is what happened
Did they kidnap him too? Or worse? Because if he's still conscious and able to post, I'd think he'd be screaming about someone hacking his account. I would be and I'm sure you would be too.
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Just goes to show you, things aren't always the way they seem.

People's fears are allayed by walls and travel bans, but it's a false security.

I'm saying, any person or group outside of our country that's determined to inflict harm within our country will find a way in, forged documents and tunnels being two ways.

By the grace of God, or damned good luck, we haven't had anything to equal 911, yet we've been wide open since that day, and before it.
When the fireworks start they look like a lit up Christmas Tree of all colors.
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Just goes to show you, things aren't always the way they seem.

People's fears are allayed by walls and travel bans, but it's a false security.

I'm saying, any person or group outside of our country that's determined to inflict harm within our country will find a way in, forged documents and tunnels being two ways.

By the grace of God, or damned good luck, we haven't had anything to equal 911, yet we've been wide open since that day, and before it.
Yeah yeah yeah and my shirt gets dirty and I wash it. We dont stop trying, even though you are right. We wont stop the homegrown nutbags. But, we can damn sure make it harder. Its one of the only security measures I can think of that actually does not take away the rights of the citizens of the United States.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 10:19 PM   #40
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Just goes to show you, things aren't always the way they seem.

People's fears are allayed by walls and travel bans, but it's a false security.

I'm saying, any person or group outside of our country that's determined to inflict harm within our country will find a way in, forged documents and tunnels being two ways.

By the grace of God, or damned good luck, we haven't had anything to equal 911, yet we've been wide open since that day, and before it.
Our entire society is dependent on the populations false sence of security. What makes this one thing so much more appalling to you than the rest? At least there is some tangible logic behind this.
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