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Old February 3rd, 2017, 12:39 PM   #41
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that is such bullshit. Seriously your using a bullshit narrative all the way around. Its like saying, well I know this one guy, in Idaho, who said he hates faggots. Then you take that and compare it to what goes on in Muslim countries. There is no comparison. None at all. Its not even in the same zip code
Don't know where you live, but I was born and raised in the south. It's not just "I met a guy in Idaho" it's I've met dozens and dozens over my 30 years dealing with the public. And for every one I've met there are more out there just like them because they have families. I've seen the gay bashings. I've seen the police refuse to investigate anything short of murder if the victim is gay. I've lived in states that had sodomy laws. So don't tell me it's all just bullshit.

It may not be a huge number, but there is a contingent of extremely fundamental, if not down right radicalized Christians out there. They would love nothing more than to do away with the first Amendment and start passing laws that would be every bit as horrific as sharia.

Pat Robertson and the Westboro nut cakes have routinely blamed every natural disaster in the county on the fact we allow gays to exist. Those are just their public statements.

I can't understand how people that say they believe in Jesus, can think the way these people do. Has to be some sort of cognitive dissonance.
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So, in your opinion Americans are just like western Europeans and will react to a large Muslim population in exactly the same manner?
You do NOT believe we are exceptional? Americans are just Frenchmen and Germans that speak English and drink their beer cold?
No, I believe that the American left will react that way. Wait, they already do. Regressive left
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The regressive left is a term coined by anti-Islamist activist Maajid Nawaz[2] to describe a perceived segment of the left which ignores certain reactionary attitudes in the name of tolerance. Nawaz originally used it to refer to misguided leftist tolerance of conservative and fundamentalist Islam (underbelly and all) in contrast to their progressive stance against the scourge of conservative and fundamentalist Christianity, but the term has since been extended to encompass many (but curiously not all) leftist positions that appear contradictory to progressive values.

While the term originates from within the left, with progressives challenging regressives to stand up for their alleged leftist values in all matters, thus implying an internal criticism (the argument being that regressives are not consistently liberal), the term has also been picked up from the outside and has been used by conservatives (and others) as a snarl word directed at any leftist positions they don't happen to like, similar to the snarl usage of the term "social justice warrior". As is to be expected, rival camps revel in the infighting of their opponents.
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Old February 3rd, 2017, 01:06 PM   #43
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Don't know where you live, but I was born and raised in the south. It's not just "I met a guy in Idaho" it's I've met dozens and dozens over my 30 years dealing with the public. And for every one I've met there are more out there just like them because they have families. I've seen the gay bashings. I've seen the police refuse to investigate anything short of murder if the victim is gay. I've lived in states that had sodomy laws. So don't tell me it's all just bullshit.

It may not be a huge number, but there is a contingent of extremely fundamental, if not down right radicalized Christians out there. They would love nothing more than to do away with the first Amendment and start passing laws that would be every bit as horrific as sharia.

Pat Robertson and the Westboro nut cakes have routinely blamed every natural disaster in the county on the fact we allow gays to exist. Those are just their public statements.

I can't understand how people that say they believe in Jesus, can think the way these people do. Has to be some sort of cognitive dissonance.
Again, no where in Western civilization is killing gays accepted. The only examples of this acceptance I can find in Western Culture is from the regressive left, mostly in Europe for now. That is only because the US has not seen the mass immigration people who practice Islam like Europe has.
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So isn't it possible that the people leaving those countries and want to come to the US are leaving those countries for the very reasons you are using as an excuse to not let them in?

IOW, you point out that the countries on Trumps list are oppressive countries where Sharia law is the law of the land. If that's what the people trying to leave want then why are they leaving? Why leave a country where Sharia law is Supreme to come to a country where religious freedom is enshrined in its Constitution if you want to live under Sharia law??

Millions of Muslims live in this country with no indication that they (for the most part) want Sharia law here. Why would people trying to get here be different?
Anything is possible, but if we allow mass immigration of Islamic refugees or peoples then they will in fact not assimilate but attempt to impose their beliefs and culture on people who do not want it. If you do not want to accept the example of Europe then I do not know what else to tell you. Just be a proud member of the regressive left
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So isn't it possible that the people leaving those countries and want to come to the US are leaving those countries for the very reasons you are using as an excuse to not let them in?

IOW, you point out that the countries on Trumps list are oppressive countries where Sharia law is the law of the land. If that's what the people trying to leave want then why are they leaving? Why leave a country where Sharia law is Supreme to come to a country where religious freedom is enshrined in its Constitution if you want to live under Sharia law??

Millions of Muslims live in this country with no indication that they (for the http://defendingthetruth.com/current...ght-5.htmlmost part) want Sharia law here. Why would people trying to get here be different?
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So, in your opinion Americans are just like western Europeans and will react to a large Muslim population in exactly the same manner?
You do NOT believe we are exceptional? Americans are just Frenchmen and Germans that speak English and drink their beer cold?
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Don't know where you live, but I was born and raised in the south. It's not just "I met a guy in Idaho" it's I've met dozens and dozens over my 30 years dealing with the public. And for every one I've met there are more out there just like them because they have families. I've seen the gay bashings. I've seen the police refuse to investigate anything short of murder if the victim is gay. I've lived in states that had sodomy laws. So don't tell me it's all just bullshit.

It may not be a huge number, but there is a contingent of extremely fundamental, if not down right radicalized Christians out there. They would love nothing more than to do away with the first Amendment and start passing laws that would be every bit as horrific as sharia.

Pat Robertson and the Westboro nut cakes have routinely blamed every natural disaster in the county on the fact we allow gays to exist. Those are just their public statements.

I can't understand how people that say they believe in Jesus, can think the way these people do. Has to be some sort of cognitive dissonance.
We are not experiencing the mass immigration of Islamic people like Europe has. The left in this nation for whatever fucked up reason wants to embrace Islamic immigration on a grand scale. This is fucking stupid
Europe, Islamism and some uncomfortable home truths | Coffee House

I can find hundreds of articles and facts demonstrating the problem with mass Islamic immigration on to western culture.
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We are not experiencing the mass immigration of Islamic people like Europe has. The left in this nation for whatever fucked up reason wants to embrace Islamic immigration on a grand scale. This is fucking stupid
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I can find hundreds of articles and facts demonstrating the problem with mass Islamic immigration on to western culture.
SO, you are getting panicky over something you think MIGHT happen, correct?
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SO, you are getting panicky over something you think MIGHT happen, correct?
Nope. I am most assured that as long as Trump is the President and the GOP controls things, that it will not happen. As long as your Democrat party remains the party of elitism and non working people, then if they get into power, it will become a real threat of that happening. Hillary Clinton campaigned on not only letting more in, but paying them to be here... let that sink in
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Nope. I am most assured that as long as Trump is the President and the GOP controls things, that it will not happen. As long as your Democrat party remains the party of elitism and non working people, then if they get into power, it will become a real threat of that happening. Hillary Clinton campaigned on not only letting more in, but paying them to be here... let that sink in
Well now, isn't that nice?
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Anything is possible, but if we allow mass immigration of Islamic refugees or peoples then they will in fact not assimilate but attempt to impose their beliefs and culture on people who do not want it. If you do not want to accept the example of Europe then I do not know what else to tell you. Just be a proud member of the regressive left
In fact?

How do you know this "fact"

As I have already pointed out there are currently millions of Muslims living in the US Aand they are (for the vast majority) NOT doing that.

So explain how you know for a "fact" that these Muslims are going to act differently?
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In fact?

How do you know this "fact"

As I have already pointed out there are currently millions of Muslims living in the US Aand they are (for the vast majority) NOT doing that.

So explain how you know for a "fact" that these Muslims are going to act differently?
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