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Old February 14th, 2017, 03:45 PM   #1
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Why is Trump so obsessed with the size of his victory?

In a joint press conference with Prime Minister Joe (at least according to Sean Spicer) Trudeau Trump was asked whether or not he thought the northern border was secure.

His answer: "You can never be totally confident, but through the incredible efforts already I see it happening of formerly General Kelly, now Secretary Kelly we have really done a great job. We’re actually taking people that are criminals, very very hardened criminals in some cases with a tremendous track record of abuse and problems, and we’re getting them out, and that’s what I said I would do. I’m just doing what I said I would do when we won by a very very large Electoral College vote.

Trump won with 304 Electoral votes.

There have been 13 Presidential Elections since 1964 when the Electoral College was increased to 538 votes

In those 13 elections only 4 winners have had an electoral vote total smaller than Trump

Bush II - 2000 - 271
Bush II - 2004 - 286
Cater - 1976 - 297
Nixon - 1968 - 301

So where exactly is he getting this "very, very large Electorial College vote"?

He won, but what is this pathological need of his to overstate the size of his victory? (Not to mention his ludicrous claims about the popular vote)
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Old February 14th, 2017, 03:58 PM   #2
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sure. somone goes to the mid east to get a story..he is American
now that mentaly troubled trump bans travel in the country
the news writer is working in and cant get home to Connecticut.
trump don't realy know what he is doing.
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Old February 14th, 2017, 04:53 PM   #3
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In a joint press conference with Prime Minister Joe (at least according to Sean Spicer) Trudeau Trump was asked whether or not he thought the northern border was secure.

His answer: "You can never be totally confident, but through the incredible efforts already I see it happening of formerly General Kelly, now Secretary Kelly we have really done a great job. We’re actually taking people that are criminals, very very hardened criminals in some cases with a tremendous track record of abuse and problems, and we’re getting them out, and that’s what I said I would do. I’m just doing what I said I would do when we won by a very very large Electoral College vote.

Trump won with 304 Electoral votes.

There have been 13 Presidential Elections since 1964 when the Electoral College was increased to 538 votes

In those 13 elections only 4 winners have had an electoral vote total smaller than Trump

Bush II - 2000 - 271
Bush II - 2004 - 286
Cater - 1976 - 297
Nixon - 1968 - 301

So where exactly is he getting this "very, very large Electorial College vote"?

He won, but what is this pathological need of his to overstate the size of his victory? (Not to mention his ludicrous claims about the popular vote)


First of all Trump has "daddy" issues: disrespectful, irresponsible, commitment phobic, attention-getting. Secondly: Narcissistic Personality Disorder. One of the words most commonly thrown around to define Donald Trump's personality is that he is a narcissist. A narcissist is someone who is intensely focused on themselves – often to the point of self-adoration – and belittles others.

It was never enough for him to just "WIN". He had to win as much as the last guy. He had to win much more than Clinton, which includes the popular vote.
AND now his approval rating is in the toilet. He's pretty pathetic.
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Old February 14th, 2017, 05:19 PM   #4
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First of all Trump has "daddy" issues: disrespectful, irresponsible, commitment phobic, attention-getting. Secondly: Narcissistic Personality Disorder. One of the words most commonly thrown around to define Donald Trump's personality is that he is a narcissist. A narcissist is someone who is intensely focused on themselves – often to the point of self-adoration – and belittles others.

It was never enough for him to just "WIN". He had to win as much as the last guy. He had to win much more than Clinton, which includes the popular vote.
AND now his approval rating is in the toilet. He's pretty pathetic.
as a shrink, i need to disagree on technical points. narcissism in lay terms is often intended to mean a massive ego, grandiose sense of ones own importance and in this sense you are right, thats trump.

psychiatrically, narcissism isnt grandiosity. narcissism is an inability to understand other peoples perspective. more than that, its an inability to realise that other people have a perspective. to a narcissist the universe only exists in terms of how it relates to them. other people start existing when they meet the narcissist, and cease to exist when the narcissist says good bye. the narcissist isnt able to grasp that the other person has their own past, their own desires and their own life.

with trump its more the case that he is grandiose, and egotistical. things like putting his name in giant letters on as many buildings as possible, naming all his corporate entities after himself, insisting he has a huge vote and massive support, this is his massive head, biggest head in washington probably and thats saying something. he is a huge egotist who demands everyone is aware of his presence.

i dont think a salesman could be narcissistic in the technical sense. a salesman has to know what their target audience is thinking, has to be able to get into their minds and know what drives them, so he knows what to sell them. trump does this very, very well, and i think that probably rules out narcissism in a psychiatric sense.

this doesnt mean he isnt a self absorbed, attention seeking, egotistical megalomaniac with a head the size of the moon.
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In a joint press conference with Prime Minister Joe (at least according to Sean Spicer) Trudeau Trump was asked whether or not he thought the northern border was secure.

His answer: "You can never be totally confident, but through the incredible efforts already I see it happening of formerly General Kelly, now Secretary Kelly we have really done a great job. We’re actually taking people that are criminals, very very hardened criminals in some cases with a tremendous track record of abuse and problems, and we’re getting them out, and that’s what I said I would do. I’m just doing what I said I would do when we won by a very very large Electoral College vote.

Trump won with 304 Electoral votes.

There have been 13 Presidential Elections since 1964 when the Electoral College was increased to 538 votes

In those 13 elections only 4 winners have had an electoral vote total smaller than Trump

Bush II - 2000 - 271
Bush II - 2004 - 286
Cater - 1976 - 297
Nixon - 1968 - 301

So where exactly is he getting this "very, very large Electorial College vote"?

He won, but what is this pathological need of his to overstate the size of his victory? (Not to mention his ludicrous claims about the popular vote)
He is gaslighting America, trying to make America doubt it's sanity.
A populist rules by being popular, not by a fluke of the electoral college.
A populist needs to be perceived as popular to demand that congress follow "the People's Will" or be swept out of office by the people.
So Trump needs a big victory to make the case that congress should follow his lead, he needs to be immensely popular, so he says he is, he says he won a huge victory, that any evidence to the contrary is evidence of fraud.
And a surprisingly large section of the population believe him.
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Old February 16th, 2017, 06:23 PM   #7
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At Trump's Press Conference today:

TRUMP: I wasn’t supposed to get 222. They said there’s no way to get 222, 230’s impossible. 270 which you need, that was laughable. We got 306 because people came out and voted like they’ve never seen before so that’s the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest electoral college win since Ronald Reagan."

Then later:

Peter Alexander (NBC): You said today that you had the biggest electoral margin since Ronald Reagan with 304 or 306 electoral votes. In fact, President Obama got 365....

Trump (Interrupting): Well, I'm talking about Republican, Yeah.

Peter Alexander: President Obama, 332. George H.W. Bush 426 when he won as President. So why should Americans trust you...

Trump (Interrupting): Well no, I was told...I was given that information. I don't know. I was just given. We had a very, very big margin.

Peter Alexander: I guess my question is why should Americans trust you when you've accused the information they've received as being fake when you're providing information that's....

Trump (interrupting) : Well I don't know. I was given that information. I was given...Actually I've seen that information around. But it was a very substantial victory, do you agree with that?

Peter Alexander: You're the President Sir.


Everyone needs to let this sink in. Trump is confronted with facts that show he is lying and the best he can do is claim "Well I was given that information". He has been spreading this lie for weeks and he hasn't bothered to verify something that would take an internet connection and about 30 seconds to check it out?

This man is delusional and he is the President and that makes him dangerous. Anyone who can't see this is just blind.
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Old February 16th, 2017, 06:30 PM   #8
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Don't forget he won the popular vote if you take away the illegal alien votes for Hillary.

Or at least that's how it is in his totally fucked up mind.
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Nominated Gorsuch for the Supreme Court who will hopefully, along with hopefully adding one or two more, will reverse the anti-constitutional damage done to the Constitution.

Not defending Obama's unconstitutional bathroom order.

Unconstitutional Obamacare is on the chopping block.

Will prevail regarding visas and immigration.

Probably a shake-up at the DOE.

Winning so far.
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