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Old February 18th, 2017, 04:11 PM   #1
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Why Was the FBI Investigating General Flynn?

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They also knew there was nothing untoward about the call. We know that from the Times report — a report that suggests an unseemly conjoining of investigative power to partisan politics.

The report informs us that as the FBI set its sights on Flynn, its agents were consulting with “Obama advisers.” Interesting, no? Ever since Hillary Clinton’s loss to Donald Trump on November 8, Obama’s Democratic party had been pushing a narrative that “Putin hacked the election.” The narrative continues to have two major flaws. First, while the Russian dictator may have preferred Trump to Clinton, there is no evidence that his Russian regime did anything to compromise the voting process. The media-Democrat complex has desperately sought to obscure this problem by emphasizing Putin’s likely role in publicizing embarrassing Democratic e-mail communications. Notwithstanding Democratic talking points, that is a far cry from “hacking” the voting process.

The second flaw is that, although Trump has made disturbingly flattering remarks about Putin, there is no evidence his campaign has given or promised Russia any actual accommodation in exchange for Putin’s favor. Democrats hope to erase this problem by finding something, anything, that could be spun as a quid pro quo. Obviously, they hoped the Flynn–Kislyak conversation would answer their prayers. No such luck. As the Times puts it:

Obama officials asked the FBI if a quid pro quo had been discussed on the call, and the answer came back no, according to one of the officials, who like others asked not to be named discussing delicate communications. The topic of sanctions came up, they were told, but there was no deal.

Asked not to be named discussing delicate communications. That’s a good one. Let me translate: The officials don’t want you to know who they are because they are corrupt — (a) FISA intercepts are classified, so disclosing them to the press is a crime; (b) by revealing the Flynn–Kislyak conversation to the press, the “officials” inform the Russians that whatever countermeasures they are taking against U.S. surveillance have failed, assuring that the Russians will alter their tactics, making the job of our honorable intelligence agents more difficult; and (c) the FBI’s investigative powers are not supposed to be put in in the service of a political party’s effort to advance a partisan storyline, like “Putin hacked the election.”

So since there was no impropriety in Flynn’s call to the Russian ambassador, why did the Bureau continue investigating Flynn? Why did FBI agents interrogate him?

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And there was no need to “grill” him over the contents of a conversation of which the FBI and Justice Department already had a recording.

And the FBI has no business probing the veracity of public statements made by presidential administrations for political purposes — something it certainly resisted doing during the Obama administration.

There appears to have been no foreign-intelligence or criminal-investigative purpose served by the FBI’s interrogation of General Flynn. It is easy to see why Democrats would want to portray Flynn’s contact with the Russian ambassador as worthy of an FBI investigation. But why did the FBI and the Justice Department investigate Flynn — and why did “officials” make sure the press found out about it?
Mike Flynn & FBI Investigation: Bureau Had No Basis for It | National Review




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Andrew McCarthy is a sharp guy regarding the law.
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Old February 18th, 2017, 05:14 PM   #3
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Somebody bugged Flynns phone, probably illegally, somebody leaked the conversation, definitely illegally.
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Somebody bugged Flynns phone, probably illegally, somebody leaked the conversation, definitely illegally.
It's perfectly legal to monitor communications between foreign agents and US citizens. Indeed, it has been revealed that some of Flynn's communications were intercepted.
If Flynn broke the law during these communications, it would be perfectly proper for the FBI to investigate, even if all the elements of a crime weren't present in the communication. Flynn is telling them not to worry about sanctions, that could be part of a deal, the Russians are helping Trump in the election, there's the quid and the quo, investigating to see if it's a deal or just coincidence is valid function of the FBI.

The FBI would be investigating Flynn due to his nomination for National Security Adviser, as a part of the vetting process.

And why did Flynn feel compelled to lie to the VP?
If he lied to the FBI, if he told them something different than they had on tape, that's a reason to investigate further.

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It's perfectly legal to monitor communications between foreign agents and US citizens. Indeed, it has been revealed that some of Flynn's communications were intercepted.
If Flynn broke the law during these communications, it would be perfectly proper for the FBI to investigate.

The FBI would be investigating Flynn due to his nomination for National Security Adviser, as a part of the vetting process.
Bugging the phone legally wold require a warrant. No evidence that was done. Releasing details of the call? No way legal.
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Goober off base yet again.

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So why single Flynn out for identification, and for investigation? FBI agents did not need to “grill” Flynn in order to learn about the call — they had a recording of the call.

They also knew there was nothing untoward about the call. We know that from the Times report — a report that suggests an unseemly conjoining of investigative power to partisan politics.

The report informs us that as the FBI set its sights on Flynn, its agents were consulting with “Obama advisers.”

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Here's how you can tell that you are delusional.
Flynn Resigned. Flynn lied about what he did.

If he didn't do anything wrong, why did he lie about it?

Because unlike the morons who claim Flynn did nothing wrong, Flynn thought he had done something wrong, that's why people lie.
If you want to blame Obama, then tell us how Obama made Flynn lie.

Or maybe Flynn is just a pathological liar, who lies about everything, who would have made a great National Security Adviser, yeah, that's the ticket...

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Goober is still trying to spin it that Flynn broke the law.
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Goober is still trying to spin it that Flynn broke the law.
Jimmy still is ignoring the fact that Flynn lied about what he did.
I am suggesting that Flynn lied because he thought he had done something wrong.

How many times have you been asked about something that you did, something that you handled in a perfectly proper manner, by a person in authority, and you lied about what you did.

And I'm not talking about "No, that dress looks fine"

I'm talking about, "No, Mr Vice President, the sanctions were not discussed during the conversation at all, I can assure you of that"
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Known facts.

Flynn talked to Russia. Could have talked about sanctions: not against the law.

Flynn mislead Pence: not against the law.

Flynn could have lied to the FBI by denying speaking to the Russians regarding santions: not against the law.

That about covers it other than using goober's methodology, Hillary Clinton should be serving life in prison.
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