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Old March 10th, 2017, 01:16 PM   #41
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As I recall from my college days, and having been in - um - very close contact with a Native American, the smell is sweet, the ability to hold 'fire water' just fine, and the compassion and general emotional generosity far superior to what is often found here at DTT.
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Old March 10th, 2017, 01:57 PM   #42
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I love that we are moving forward with the pipeline and that the regulations that Obama heaped on industry are being removed.


Excellent!
WHY exactly do you "love it?"
Name the regulation(s) "Obama heaped on industry" that stopped or significantly delayed this pipeline project.
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Old March 10th, 2017, 03:32 PM   #43
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I don't know how much room the Lakota, Dakota and other nations being put at risk by these potentially lethal pipelines, have to offer more than passive resistance, but the video feeds I've seen of armored stormtroopers with automatic weapons being sent in at them shows this strategy is completely ineffective when facing tyranny!

In times past, US governments may have been a little more concerned about image and PR to just apply brute force against peaceful protesters; but that's not the world we live in today. We see the same thing happened in 2011 when they shut down the Occupy encampments, not to mention other protests against pipelines and police killings.....pretty much any and every demonstration that might interfere with some corporation's ability to make profits is going to be suppressed by the same tactics they're teaching military officers in Central and South America to kill and suppress natives protesting mining and other developments destroying their lands!
It will be getting much worse the longer the fascists dictator trump and his cult of liars and thieves stay in office.
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Old March 12th, 2017, 12:25 PM   #44
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Must say I have to agree with the stinking part but a nice smelling savage is still a savage. Also it's not wise to give an Indian Fire Water!
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Would that be the Dakota tribe than ran out the Cheyenne who inhabited that area.
Even here, you know nothing of the history of this continent before the arrival of Europeans. In the case of the America's interior, life was completely disrupted by the introduction of a new technology...not guns, horses! First, we have to examine how early on in the history of Eurasia, how culture changed...or was upended by raiders on horseback. Beginning about 4000 years ago, raiding parties start pouring out of Central Asia, moving west, east and south, raiding and plundering the first "civilizations" or permanently settled communities. To defend themselves, the citydwellers adopted many if not most of the warfaring and male-centered cultural values of the raiders...glorifying killing and dying in battle as even if repelled, the cult of the warrior and his stamp was left permanently, and changed culture, religion and ways of life permanently. Well, same thing happened on this side of the world as settlements had to deal with the brand new phenomena of raiders on horseback.

Until the Apache's and Comanches started learning how to ride and manage horses from the Spanish conquistadors, population densities among the buffalo hunters in the interior were never great enough to make wars or battles necessary....primarily because they had to hunt on foot...spending long days running down prey until exhaustion and overheating if there were no convenient "buffalo jumps" to force a group of bison over a cliff and provide enough food and useable materials for an entire season.

The Comanches were the tribes that applied the horse to greatest effect- to expand their territory and forcing out others in most of the interior...even preventing the Spanish from moving north. For reasons still not fully understood, the Comanches started declining in numbers and dying out even before the Americans started moving beyond the Mississippi. The cause of the end of the Comanches is still not fully understood, although it is known that they were greatly devastated by new diseases and had many enemies on all sides...who were also fighting and hunting on horseback.

So, after the demise of the Comanches, the Plains were fought over by competing tribes, with one of the dominant groups-the Blackfoot tribes being completely forced off the plains into the northwest because of their refusal to adopt the horse and use horses for hunting.

Long story short, taking a snapshot of what was happening when the Americans were moving into the plains in greater number and writing about them and how they lived, tells us nothing about life before the conquistadors arrived.
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WHY exactly do you "love it?"
Name the regulation(s) "Obama heaped on industry" that stopped or significantly delayed this pipeline project.
That's the problem! He could have stopped it/demanded it be re-routed along its original plan, but preferred to stay sitting on that fence doing nothing...leaving DAPL available for the investor/president to push ahead, pedal to the metal.
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Any civilization that relies on subsistence hunting and gathering will be limited due to excess and waste. Native's population would surge and go down. Basically they would rape the environment of all it could offer, then they would literally starve themselves down to a smaller population. The environment would repair, the native American numbers would increase, repeat cycle.
A little projection here from the gangster capitalist who assumes everyone else is as sick and twisted as he is!

And fwiw any civilization that exceeds resource limits and destroys the environment is a doomed civilization. Guess what kind of civilization modern industrial capitalism is?
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A little projection here from the gangster capitalist who assumes everyone else is as sick and twisted as he is!

And fwiw any civilization that exceeds resource limits and destroys the environment is a doomed civilization. Guess what kind of civilization modern industrial capitalism is?
Oh, gee I give up you tell me. Because once we seize the means of production and everyone is rewarded according to his need things will be fucking peachy
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Even here, you know nothing of the history of this continent before the arrival of Europeans. In the case of the America's interior, life was completely disrupted by the introduction of a new technology...not guns, horses! First, we have to examine how early on in the history of Eurasia, how culture changed...or was upended by raiders on horseback. Beginning about 4000 years ago, raiding parties start pouring out of Central Asia, moving west, east and south, raiding and plundering the first "civilizations" or permanently settled communities. To defend themselves, the citydwellers adopted many if not most of the warfaring and male-centered cultural values of the raiders...glorifying killing and dying in battle as even if repelled, the cult of the warrior and his stamp was left permanently, and changed culture, religion and ways of life permanently. Well, same thing happened on this side of the world as settlements had to deal with the brand new phenomena of raiders on horseback.

Until the Apache's and Comanches started learning how to ride and manage horses from the Spanish conquistadors, population densities among the buffalo hunters in the interior were never great enough to make wars or battles necessary....primarily because they had to hunt on foot...spending long days running down prey until exhaustion and overheating if there were no convenient "buffalo jumps" to force a group of bison over a cliff and provide enough food and useable materials for an entire season.

The Comanches were the tribes that applied the horse to greatest effect- to expand their territory and forcing out others in most of the interior...even preventing the Spanish from moving north. For reasons still not fully understood, the Comanches started declining in numbers and dying out even before the Americans started moving beyond the Mississippi. The cause of the end of the Comanches is still not fully understood, although it is known that they were greatly devastated by new diseases and had many enemies on all sides...who were also fighting and hunting on horseback.

So, after the demise of the Comanches, the Plains were fought over by competing tribes, with one of the dominant groups-the Blackfoot tribes being completely forced off the plains into the northwest because of their refusal to adopt the horse and use horses for hunting.

Long story short, taking a snapshot of what was happening when the Americans were moving into the plains in greater number and writing about them and how they lived, tells us nothing about life before the conquistadors arrived.
The Horse started in Middle America and about the size of a house cat umpteen millions of years ago but disappeared in the last Ice Age and moved to Asia. The Spaniards reintroduced the horse into Middle America in the early 16th century by Cortez.
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The Horse started in Middle America and about the size of a house cat umpteen millions of years ago but disappeared in the last Ice Age and moved to Asia. The Spaniards reintroduced the horse into Middle America in the early 16th century by Cortez.
That's true, but I didn't mention the North American horse because they were all gone before the first people came wandering though the continent.
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