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Old March 15th, 2017, 06:29 PM   #31
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Actually, it has a new(er) name. It is now known as the Republican Insurance Plan.







or R.I.P.

That is good. I hope they run w/ it.
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Emergency room visits have surged under Obamacare.
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Medicare for all.

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Old March 15th, 2017, 08:12 PM   #35
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I can. The CBO projected a cumulative surplus of $5.6 trillion by 2009. That got that right, didn't they.
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The CBO is worthless and a political arm but I am sure getting a kick out of the progs talking as if it is gospel.


How Projected Surpluses Became Deficits


Main Causes Were Tax Cuts and Higher Security Spending


he federal budget is projected to run a $546 billion deficit in 2009, compared with the $710 billion surplus that budget experts projected for 2009 back when President Bush took office nearly eight years ago. This $1.3 trillion deterioration in the nation’s fiscal finances for 2009 can be seen by comparing estimates that the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released this week with those that CBO released in January 2001.

The story is much the same for the entire ten-year period covered by CBO’s 2001 projection. In January 2001, CBO projected a cumulative $5.6 trillion surplus for 2002-2011. Now, CBO’s new report suggests the nation will amass a cumulative deficit of $3.8 trillion over that same period, marking a $9.4 trillion deterioration.

For both 2009 and the ten-year period, this massive deterioration is partly due to weaker-than-expected performance of the economy, along with other “technical” factors that are beyond policymakers’ control. But these economic and technical factors account for less than one-fourth of the fiscal deterioration for each period, and they are not responsible for the return of deficits. Even given the disappointing performance of the economy since 2001 relative to CBO’s earlier projections, there would have been large surpluses in every year — totaling $3.4 trillion over the 2002-2011 period — if policymakers had enacted no tax cuts or program increases since 2001.

The dominant factor in the unprecedented fiscal deterioration thus was not the performance of the economy. Nor was it increases in domestic programs. The key factors have been large tax cuts and increases in security-related programs. For fiscal 2009, some $1 trillion of the $1.3 trillion deterioration in the nation’s fiscal finances stems from policy actions, and tax cuts account for 42 percent of this $1 trillion deterioration. Increases in military and other security programs account for another 40 percent of the deterioration.

The story is much the same for the ten-year period as a whole. For the 2002-2011 period, tax cuts and increases in security programs account for more than four-fifths of the fiscal deterioration caused by policy actions. Increases in domestic programs played a much more modest role.
How Projected Surpluses Became Deficits | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
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How Projected Surpluses Became Deficits


Main Causes Were Tax Cuts and Higher Security Spending


he federal budget is projected to run a $546 billion deficit in 2009, compared with the $710 billion surplus that budget experts projected for 2009 back when President Bush took office nearly eight years ago. This $1.3 trillion deterioration in the nation’s fiscal finances for 2009 can be seen by comparing estimates that the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released this week with those that CBO released in January 2001.

The story is much the same for the entire ten-year period covered by CBO’s 2001 projection. In January 2001, CBO projected a cumulative $5.6 trillion surplus for 2002-2011. Now, CBO’s new report suggests the nation will amass a cumulative deficit of $3.8 trillion over that same period, marking a $9.4 trillion deterioration.

For both 2009 and the ten-year period, this massive deterioration is partly due to weaker-than-expected performance of the economy, along with other “technical” factors that are beyond policymakers’ control. But these economic and technical factors account for less than one-fourth of the fiscal deterioration for each period, and they are not responsible for the return of deficits. Even given the disappointing performance of the economy since 2001 relative to CBO’s earlier projections, there would have been large surpluses in every year — totaling $3.4 trillion over the 2002-2011 period — if policymakers had enacted no tax cuts or program increases since 2001.

The dominant factor in the unprecedented fiscal deterioration thus was not the performance of the economy. Nor was it increases in domestic programs. The key factors have been large tax cuts and increases in security-related programs. For fiscal 2009, some $1 trillion of the $1.3 trillion deterioration in the nation’s fiscal finances stems from policy actions, and tax cuts account for 42 percent of this $1 trillion deterioration. Increases in military and other security programs account for another 40 percent of the deterioration.

The story is much the same for the ten-year period as a whole. For the 2002-2011 period, tax cuts and increases in security programs account for more than four-fifths of the fiscal deterioration caused by policy actions. Increases in domestic programs played a much more modest role.
How Projected Surpluses Became Deficits | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

What does that have to do with the CBO's consistently missing projections by billions and trillions of dollars? There is always an excuse.
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Old March 16th, 2017, 05:56 AM   #38
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After 7 years of claiming to have a plan that lowers premiums, covers everyone, lowers deductibles, they come out with a bill that kicks 24 million off health insurance and uses the savings for a huge tax cut for the wealthy.

And then they try to say, this is what everyone voted for.....

Ahh, no, they voted for lowering the cost and covering everyone, that's the plan you claimed to have, that's what they voted for.
Frankly, supporters of obamacare do not understand that obamacare is fiscally unsound and is essentially back door to slavery.

In capitalist economy, as American economy is, an individual pays for his or her healthcare and his or her health insurance out of his or her own pocket to private clinics and private insurance companies. If an individual is not productive enough to pay for healthcare or health insurance, an individual dies with dignity. Thus, capitalist healthcare is fiscally sound.

In socialist economy, the state pay for healthcare and for health insurance of all individuals out of social taxes, while all individuals able to work are guaranteed employment by the state and pay social taxes to the state out of their wages: clinics are state run or doctors run, and healthcare is rationed. Thus, socialist healthcare is fiscally sound.

In contrast, obamacare forces individuals to purchase health insurance they do not desire and forces insurance companies to insure individuals they cannot reasonably insure, which is subsidized by the US federal government. In fact, obamacare is not socialist healthcare, and is not capitalist healthcare, but fiscally unsound democratic utopia, that forces millions of individuals to purchase health insurance they either do not need or cannot pay for, and forces insurance companies to insure individuals they cannot reasonably insure, which is subsidized by the US federal government. The end result of obamacare thus will be millions of non-working individuals with ever growing noncollectable tax debts to the US federal government for health insurance they do not desire to purchase or cannot afford to purchase, and ever growing US federal subsidies to insurance companies for treatment of individuals with health conditions that cannot reasonably be insured by insurance companies. In fact, obamacare will add 2 trillion to 5 trillion USD to US federal debt over ten year period, that the United States of America and the American people simply cannot afford.

In fact, under American constitution, the US federal government has no authority to intervene in healthcare. Therefore, US Congress shall swiftly repeal obamacare in full, replacing it with nothing at all. Those who are interested in helping American poor to obtain basic healthcare and basic health insurance, should approach US state and district governments, that may, if they consider it necessary and proper and there is state and district revenue available, issue healthcare vouchers covering basic healthcare and basic health insurance to their individual residents who are genuinely unable to purchase basic healthcare and basic health insurance.
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What does that have to do with the CBO's consistently missing projections by billions and trillions of dollars? There is always an excuse.
Trolling again. Now answer this please.

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Old March 16th, 2017, 08:16 AM   #40
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Well, with an estimated 24 million extra people uninsured under the new scheme, the numbers are sure to fall.

The USA is the only western nation that thinks welfare for the poor is bad, but for the rich (in the form of tax breaks) is good.
The only problem with welfare for the poor, is more people learn to live on just enough to keep them on welfare, how is that good?
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