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Old March 20th, 2017, 03:41 PM   #31
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Empty, irrelevant bullshit.
not provable either.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 04:23 PM   #32
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These stories will continue, as the left is already in campaign mode for 2020, they are being led from behind the scenes by Obama himself, with Soros bankrolling the whole thing. Many of the posters here from the left are part of the whole thing, they are paid shills and it shows. This is no conspiracy it's fact.
It's a fact all right, but an alternative fact. You don't know who if anyone is a "paid shill," but that doesn't stop you, does it? You appeal to the court of "Everyone Knows," but everybody doesn't know and neither do you.

The right side went into 2012 campaign mode in 2008, and when 2012 didn't work out as hoped the campaign mode was extended to 2016.

I am so damned tired of the hypocrisy on both sides. I know I'm not alone. That's a real fact for ya, Sensible.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 04:47 PM   #33
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It's a fact all right, but an alternative fact. You don't know who if anyone is a "paid shill," but that doesn't stop you, does it? You appeal to the court of "Everyone Knows," but everybody doesn't know and neither do you.

The right side went into 2012 campaign mode in 2008, and when 2012 didn't work out as hoped the campaign mode was extended to 2016.

I am so damned tired of the hypocrisy on both sides. I know I'm not alone. That's a real fact for ya, Sensible.
Maybe we should use Mexico's system. The president is elected to ONE six year term and out. Not legible for re-election fucking EVER.
Our guys get in and all they do for the first four years it campaign for another term.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 05:33 PM   #34
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Soros and so many others running right and left politics in the US and other nations, will not pay for what they get for free!

The damage done by George Soros is not just the insane ramblings of Alex Jones and others! If anyone should be outraged about how George Soros has applied his money in US politics, it should be members of the Democratic Party itself! It's Soros's "think tank" Center For American Progress that has become the main driver for what issues should/and should not be put forth by the Democratic Party.

A quick example of the evils of George Soros can be found in how his front groups that supported anti-Iraq War and related peace activists in the Bush era, rolled up the carpet on them and shut down funding after Obama was elected and not even in office yet. All of a sudden, money spent on wars, the war crimes, the expanded bombing and drone-bombing campaigns were all okay again. (we didn't learn until late last year that O dropped more than 26000 bombs during his terms in office)

But, all through Obama's two terms, there were no voices from the left challenging American wars and increasingly aggressive foreign policy moves....such as one that only China talks about: how the new AFRICOM just happens to shut down Chinese business investments in Africa. Whatever you call your political ideology, it's imperialist if you support using US military power to leverage on behalf of US and allied corporations!
Soros, Koch, both are disconnected from the average citizen, as is Trump.

You're right. The left side wasn't out protesting during Obama's terms. And while the left siders were sitting on their thumbs, what were the right-siders doing?

Criticizing Obama for being too soft on .......... drum roll please ............ Russia and its evil leader, Putin!! And then, the switch:



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As for AFRICOM and China, I'm sure you can give everyone all they want to know, from an RT perspective, which conveniently omits the downsides of Chinese involvement in Africa:
In addition to investment projects, China has quickly become the continent’s biggest trading partner, with trade volume of $166 billion in 2014. This is likely to continue to increase and reach an estimated $1.7 trillion by 2030. But despite the substantial investments, most of them have been routinely cast as detrimental to Africa’s overall competitiveness.

The projects are dependent on deals made at the highest political levels. They lack competitive and transparent bidding processes, and most of the work force employed at these ventures has been Chinese. Promises of job creation have not been fulfilled. Further, when Africans are hired, local rules and regulations are often flouted, leading at times to poor safety.

For instance, at Chinese-run mines in Zambia’s copper belt, employees must work for two years before they get safety helmets. Ventilation below ground is poor, and deadly accidents occur almost on a daily basis.

More frequently, jobs are lost to Chinese employees, who are ferried in project by project. For example, the growing Chinese presence in South Africa may have cost the country 75,000 jobs from 2000 to 2011. In Nigeria, the influx of low-priced Chinese textile goods has caused 80 percent of Nigerian companies in this industry to close.

Africans' impression of Chinese firms could also be shaped by illegal practices carried out by them.

For example, by law, mining on small plots of 25 acres or less is restricted to Ghanaian nationals. However, many Chinese continue to explore for gold in conjunction with local landowners, even though regulations have made it clear that such practice is illegal. The result: Many Africans see themselves to be exploited by the newcomers.

Perhaps making matter worse, the kinds of goods that the two partners trade with each other have done little to change such perception.

Whereas China buys from Africa mainly natural resources—minerals and metals—African countries import primarily the finished results, ranging from machinery and electrical goods to plastics and rubber.

Such an arrangement could benefit both parties, but it’s more often seen as China exploiting Africa’s natural resources to feed its need for industrial output. At the same time, by exporting cheap—and often shoddy—manufactured goods to African countries, local companies not only become less competitive but they also grow increasingly dependent on China.

Recent research has also suggested that the Chinese presence has failed to bring significant skill developments, adequate technological transfer or any measurable upgrade to the productivity levels to this part of the world
China's role in Africa is exciting for China, but is it as great for Africa?
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Old March 20th, 2017, 07:32 PM   #35
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Some of the responses.

CPAC attendees: We don't believe Trump's trips are costing more than Obama's

Donald Ely, 83, a Pennsylvania Republican Party official, had heard the stories of Trump's travel expenses. But he wasn't sure he could trust them.
Similarly, Arthur Herstein, 74, a writer from Bowie, Maryland..."I believe that the story exists," Herstein said. "But the facts in it can't possibly be right. That absolutely can't be right.
"I don't trust the bookkeepers. I don't trust the people who say, 'This president spent X and this president spent Y,'" said Roy Postel, 58.
Grace Germany "You have to recognize that he's not even taking a salary," she said. "He's not doing this for money."
"When they say 'Mar-a-Lago,' that's not a vacation. He's wearing suits — he's clearly working," Kent from Ohio says.

Baaaa.....Baaaaa.....
I honestly can't understand how the conservatives can be so gullible and willfully ignorant and still survive everyday life. They truely are very sick people.
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Mar-a-Lago is making money for Trump in other ways. On Jan. 1 of this year the "initiation" fee was doubled from $100K to $200K, plus $14L/yr. and then if you want to rent a room overnight it'll cost you "several thousands."

Trump could hold a Coal-Aid concert, $5K a ticket and only a thousand will be sold, with Ted Nugent headlining the event, and donate all of the proceeds to charity.
"Coal-Aide" or "Kool-Aide? Kool Aide would be more appropriate for a trump function.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 07:40 PM   #37
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These stories will continue, as the left is already in campaign mode for 2020, they are being led from behind the scenes by Obama himself, with Soros bankrolling the whole thing. Many of the posters here from the left are part of the whole thing, they are paid shills and it shows. This is no conspiracy it's fact.
You are just as crazy as your news source alex jones.
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"Deep State" conspiracy buff?

Yeah boys, get your excuses in line and ready...
Little frightened boys like Sensible and the rest of his cult of weak minded deplorables should start carrying their guns, President Obama's secret shadow Army is probably stalking them as we write this.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 07:50 PM   #39
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Said the paid shill!
Prove your lie or STFU! For starters,
how much are these imaginary "shills" getting paid?
who pays them?
what is the pay scale?
how do they get paid?
If you can't answer those questions, you prove yourself to be a right wing liar!
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