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Old March 20th, 2017, 02:49 PM   #1
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Is Gorsuch a secret liberal?

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Is Gorsuch a secret liberal? Trump, GOP have reason to wonder.


Justice Harold Burton recalled from a 1957 meeting with President Eisenhower that the president said his two biggest mistakes were sitting on the Supreme Court: Justices Earl Warren and William Brennan. Both were Republicans.

Warren was the governor of California who participated in the detention of Japanese Americans during World War II. Brennan was appointed to New Jersey Supreme Court by Republican Governor Alfred Driscoll. Brennan was not a liberal on New Jersey’s highest court.

Justice David Souter, appointed by George H.W. Bush and Harry Blackmun appointed by President Nixon, turned out to be liberals. Byron White, appointed by John F. Kennedy, turned out to be much more conservative than expected.

The first point is that once on the Supreme Court, justices can go on their own path. The second point is that judges with slim records, like Judge Gorsuch, are not easy to predict.

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Gorsuch lives in the ultra-liberal college town of Boulder, Colorado. He also teaches at the University of Colorado’s law school, also a progressive bastion, and is supported in his quest for the Supreme Court by most of the faculty and students there.

Gorsuch is also a member of the St. John’s Episcopal Church in Boulder. The Episcopal Church has embraced very liberal positions on a variety of issues, including performing same-sex commitment ceremonies since the 1980s and eventually same-sex marriages. At church, he often hears a very liberal point of view.

Mike Orr, a spokesman for the Episcopal Church in Colorado, described Gorsuch’s church, as a congregation that “does a lot of social justice and advocacy.” He said, “It’s a healthy and vibrant congregation. It’s very diverse in its congregants as well as its ministry.”

The first word that St. John’s uses to describe itself on its website and Facebook page is “inclusive,” and the church is led by a female rector. On its website, the church encourages members to write letters to Congress asking that they combat climate change.
I have also read op-eds touting his conservative creds, but this was an interesting perspective on him.

Is Gorsuch a secret liberal? Trump, GOP have reason to wonder. | TheHill
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Old March 20th, 2017, 03:34 PM   #2
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Judge Gorsuch's is an originalist. There is no political ideology regarding originalism.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 03:43 PM   #3
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Judge Gorsuch's is an originalist. There is no political ideology regarding originalism.
bullshit!

Ideological Chasm Over Interpreting Constitution | Pew Research Center

"Constitutional originalism draws overwhelming support from Staunch Conservatives, who are mostly older white males and include the largest percentage of Tea Party supporters (72%) of any group. Fully 88% of Staunch Conservatives say the Supreme Court should base its understanding of the Constitution on how it was originally written. Among other Republican and GOP-leaning groups – Main Street Republicans, Libertarians and Disaffecteds – smaller majorities favor an originalist approach.

Solid Liberals –who are mostly highly politically engaged, pro-government seculars – reject constitutional originalism by nearly the same margin as Staunch Conservatives support it: 81% say the Court should base its rulings on its understanding of what the Constitution means in current times, while just 15% say justices should base their rulings on an understanding of what the Constitution means as it was originally written."
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Now the liberals are lying about originalism, which is the method of interpretation prescribed by the men who wrote the Constitution.

Liberals reject orginalism because they are naturally stupid and because they hate the Constitution and the rule of law.

The level of raw stupidity in this country is breathtaking.

This country desperately needs tests to qualify to vote.
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I have also read op-eds touting his conservative creds, but this was an interesting perspective on him.

Is Gorsuch a secret liberal? Trump, GOP have reason to wonder. | TheHill
There is a history of justices becoming liberal after they are appointed to the Supreme Court.
One theory is that since they move to Washington, and join the Washington social circuit, they are exposed to far more Liberals in their social life, and adopt the mores of their new friends.
Add to that the inherent contradictions in "originalist" theory and over time, a move to the left is almost inevitable.
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There is no history of Supreme Court justices becoming liberal over time. This is a result of liberals using the Martin-Quinn score as a Rorschach test to support their worldview.
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This is the same man he was 10 years ago,

with even more Court experience to bring to the Supreme court. Rather than trying to drum up some 'change" in him, it would be more worth while to seriously think about how all those Dem Senators are now opposing him. They voted...unanimously...to appoint him to the circuit court. Yes...those who spoke against him today were mostly the same ones voting for him last time around.

Some of them today actually said they were going to ask him questions on "how" he would vote on some of the things they think are their main vote getters...you know, like gay rights, women, illegals etc. They know that no candidate worth their salt, would give any answer to some hypothetical topic that might come before them. These Dems need to accept...it is now "President Trump"...and start acting like responsible people actually trying to do what the committee assignment is intended for them to do. ...not play current politics.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 06:27 AM   #8
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Now the liberals are lying about originalism, which is the method of interpretation prescribed by the men who wrote the Constitution.

Liberals reject orginalism because they are naturally stupid and because they hate the Constitution and the rule of law.

The level of raw stupidity in this country is breathtaking.

This country desperately needs tests to qualify to vote.
Sounds like Jimmyb is drowning in his own bullshit!
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Sounds like Jimmyb is drowning in his own bullshit!
Sounds like you can't argue the point.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 09:20 AM   #10
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Sounds like you can't argue the point.
what point?
I seriously doubt you know what it is, if there was one.
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