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Old April 16th, 2017, 11:32 PM   #1
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To be fair, should all nations allow to own nuclear weapons?

In a political forum, I came across the following argument by a poster who was probably a North Korean. Readers are welcome to refute or support his argument.

"WHY? Does the UN punish North Korea..But not Israel,India or Pakistan?,
is it the usual double standard? I can have a gun to kill you but you cannot have a gun to defend yourself?"
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Old April 17th, 2017, 01:09 AM   #2
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In a political forum, I came across the following argument by a poster who was probably a North Korean. Readers are welcome to refute or support his argument.

"WHY? Does the UN punish North Korea..But not Israel,India or Pakistan?,
is it the usual double standard? I can have a gun to kill you but you cannot have a gun to defend yourself?"
...That's the problem America has with gun laws, we can't control all the nut jobs...America and Japan are the only ones to have experienced nuclear war and you won't find a single proponent of nuclear weapons in either country, unless they are bat shit crazy...The problem is we can't put the genie back in the bottle...This is a stupid argument because the world has bigger problems to think about...
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In a sane world, and this is coming, but it's still a ways off, there are no nations, and no war and no nuclear weapons.

It's coming because the people will demand it, because the world wastes too much of it's wealth on things that destroy wealth and people.
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Old April 17th, 2017, 09:02 AM   #4
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To be fair?

Life is not and will never be fair.

Allow?

No human has this authority or wisdom.

So why no nukes for North Korea? Simple, because your leader is a nutcase and your govt is wacky.
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To be fair?

Life is not and will never be fair.

Allow?

No human has this authority or wisdom.

So why no nukes for North Korea? Simple, because your leader is a nutcase and your govt is wacky.
And ours isn't?
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To be fair?

Life is not and will never be fair.

Allow?

No human has this authority or wisdom.

So why no nukes for North Korea? Simple, because your leader is a nutcase and your govt is wacky.
Tell us honestly ..... truly honestly ..... Do you REALLY sleep better at night with the knowledge that a magamaniacal narcissist like Donald Trump has the keys to the nukes ?? Do you NOT see the similarities between him and Kim Jong-un ??? Does it give you even the slightest pause ??
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Old April 17th, 2017, 09:38 AM   #7
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In a political forum, I came across the following argument by a poster who was probably a North Korean. Readers are welcome to refute or support his argument.

"WHY? Does the UN punish North Korea..But not Israel,India or Pakistan?,
is it the usual double standard? I can have a gun to kill you but you cannot have a gun to defend yourself?"
Sounds like a good question regardless of whether it's from an actual North Korean or not.
Israel in particular, received most of its nuclear weapons technology (and possibly a few completed bombs also) directly from the US Government, and has used those nukes as blackmail leverage against neighbors/while never admitting to having them and is not a signatory to any of the international nuclear monitoring treaties...for what they're worth!

I've read through 2nd hand sources that Kim Jong Il has declared that Libya's biggest mistake was giving up their nuclear and WMD programs in a peace agreement with the US and England....and then the US tore up that agreement and bombed away while facilitating a rag tag collection of goon squads (still armed and still on the loose) to overrun Libya and turn it from a modern, literate nation with lowest poverty in the Arab World into a complete hellhole that caused the massive refugee exodus Euro's are crapping about so much lately, and is even blatantly practicing slavery in the open...while America plans the next regime change improvement targets.............
The Last Country We “Liberated” from an “Evil” Dictator Is Now Openly Trading Slaves
The Last Country We ?Liberated? from an ?Evil? Dictator Is Now Openly Trading Slaves

So, who's to say he's wrong? What I'd like to know is what happened to the Ban The Bomb movements and the supposedly serious work we were told was being done to eliminate nuclear weapons back in the 80's and 90's? Let's not forget now that Bombastic Trump is in the White House that it was Obama-the Nobel Prize winner, who launched a 10 year One $Trillion+ nukes and missiles strategy before leaving the White House.

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...That's the problem America has with gun laws, we can't control all the nut jobs...America and Japan are the only ones to have experienced nuclear war and you won't find a single proponent of nuclear weapons in either country, unless they are bat shit crazy...The problem is we can't put the genie back in the bottle...This is a stupid argument because the world has bigger problems to think about...
When did America experience a nuclear war? And, we were trying to "put the genie back in the bottle" until very recent times! Is collective insanity so great today that people don't worry or don't think that there are thousands of warheads out there that could light up and annihilate life on Earth at any moment?
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Oh yeah, Israel "blackmailed" its neighbors into not killing them.

Sheesh
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Old April 17th, 2017, 12:16 PM   #10
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Allowed by whom? That is the question. The entity that has the power to deem what is "fair" has the power to conquer.

Next question:
Should all nations be allowed to control their own mass media or should Israel continue to control them all?
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