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Old April 18th, 2017, 03:41 PM   #11
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RNG, another Prog who loves Mohammedans.



It is amazing how Progs have warmly embraced the political system of Mohammedanism. Kindred spirits.


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Old April 18th, 2017, 03:43 PM   #12
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It is amazing how Progs have warmly embraced the political system of Mohammedanism. Kindred spirits.


I haven't embraced anything. ALL religions (in my opinion) are silly and the human race will be better off if we can ever rid ourselves of them.

But just because I haven't embraced Islam doesn't mean that I think that I think any kind of significant portion of Muslims in this country are fundamentalist whack jobs waiting to launch jihad on the rest of us.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 03:47 PM   #13
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I haven't embraced anything. ALL religions (in my opinion) are silly and the human race will be better off if we can ever rid ourselves of them.

But just because I haven't embraced Islam doesn't mean that I think that I think any kind of significant portion of Muslims in this country are fundamentalist whack jobs waiting to launch jihad on the rest of us.
The thing is there are not nations full of westboro like Christian fundies that are flooding our country by the 10s of thousands on the taxpayers dime claiming "refugee" status.

Remove the refugee issue and I completely agree w/ you.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 04:50 PM   #14
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I haven't embraced anything. ALL religions (in my opinion) are silly and the human race will be better off if we can ever rid ourselves of them.

But just because I haven't embraced Islam doesn't mean that I think that I think any kind of significant portion of Muslims in this country are fundamentalist whack jobs waiting to launch jihad on the rest of us.
well they arent ALL fundamentalist whack jobs. just the ones who are following the quran. the others are non quranic muslims, they are harmless. well, unless they become religious. i suspect thats the history with the perpetrator of these killings; he was a quiet guy, normal, not particularly fundamentalist or fanatical, until recently. in the last few months he started becoming more interested in religion, more obsessive about prayer, about attending the mosque regularly, he started reading islamic doctrine more and more, and then it culminated in him finally following it. thats a very common story behind these kind of events.

not every muslim is a jihadi. but every muslim has the potential. every muslim will claim the quran is the perfect word of a flawless god. the jihadis are the ones who start following it.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 05:19 PM   #15
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Read more here: Three dead in central Fresno shooting rampage; suspect caught, linked to Motel 6 slaying | The Fresno Bee
In a Liberal state...duh...no kidding they don't agree.
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In a Liberal state...duh...no kidding they don't agree.
What an idiotic statement.
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Oh, I am all for killing enemies.
I just don't approve of fucking killing everyone that just happens to have the same fucking religion my fucking enemies happen to have,
Some of you people are just SO fucking stupid.
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Oh, I am all for killing enemies.
I just don't approve of fucking killing everyone that just happens to have the same fucking religion my fucking enemies happen to have,
Some of you people are just SO fucking stupid.
If only that made sense...?
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The local cops don't seem to share your Islamophobia.
right. a man called muhammad did a mass killing while shouting "allah akbar!".

but its nothing to do with islam.

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the literal translation of “Allahu Akbar” means “God is the greatest.” It is used during prayers and “unfortunately the same term is being used in an evil manner by extremists and terrorists trying to give some kind of religious legitimacy to their acts

the way it is being used by extremist and violent people is actually against our faith and is a misrepresentation of the word.
right? because the quran would never sanction violence, would it?

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

oops.

well, muhammad then, the prophet of islam, he is so important its a crime to even draw his picture, surely our muhammad today ought to be trying to act like the prophet muhammad.

Sahih Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'.

Sahih Bukhari (52:44) - A man came to Allah's Apostle and said, "Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward)." He replied, "I do not find such a deed."

Sahih Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite.'

Sahih Bukhari 2:35 "The person who participates in (Holy Battles) in Allah’s cause and nothing compels him do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty ( if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise ( if he is killed)."

Sahih Muslim (19:4294) - "Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war... When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them."

oops.

just look at what the quran says, and its clear who is misrepresenting what.
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Oh, I am all for killing enemies.
its nice to try and negotiate first, if you can. i hope you agree.

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I just don't approve of fucking killing everyone that just happens to have the same fucking religion my fucking enemies happen to have
neither do i. neither does anyone.

has anyone, ever, suggested doing that?

anyone?

anywhere?

has anyone on this forum said "we should kill all people who are (insert religion)"

anyone, anywhere, said anything like that?

well, actually yes. this has been said, or at least something very similar.

but i will leave it to you to try and guess who said this, and where it is recorded.

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Some of you people are just SO fucking stupid.
but you, master hollywood, are so brilliant, you should be able to work it out.

there is one place where it explicitly says that people should be killed if they are not of a particular religion, or given the chance to convert, but killed if they do not.

can you work it out? who might have said its righteous to kill in the name of your religion, to kill others because they do not share your religion?

i will give you a hint: the answer is on this very thread of this forum.
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