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Old May 17th, 2017, 04:26 AM   #61
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They would be calling for the hangman if it was Obama, Clinton or anyone from the non right.
You would be defending them, even if the proof was staring you right in the face. There has been to date NO evidence of Trump doing anything wrong. He did not share methods used by the intelligence community, he shared the intel.
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The Greg factor, Miller and Jaffe, examined Trump's classified information that are rich and sensitive. One of them is about ISIS.

Excerpt: President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said that Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

The information Trump relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said that Trump’s decision to do so risks cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and National Security Agency.

“This is code-word information,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”

In that piece, he had learned than an acquired partner to Islamic State were plotting to use laptop computers in terror attacks.

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In that piece, he had learned than an acquired partner to Islamic State were plotting to use laptop computers in terror attacks.

Which CNN had reported on April 1st.
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Old May 17th, 2017, 04:33 AM   #63
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You right wing nut jobs buy into everything your king trump says...or more appropriately lies.
You and Trump are clowns, CNN "Broke" the laptop story on April 1st. You're dismissed.
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Old May 17th, 2017, 05:20 AM   #64
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We are losing allies right and left because of the liar trump's incompetence. trump has insulted the Swedes, Brits, Aussies, Mexico, Norway, France, Germany and Japan, soon we will be on our own against the world if trump isn't deleted from our lives.....Pence needs to go also because he backs every lie that falls out of trump's mouth.


If and WHEN Trump is completely dismantled it will be entertaining to watch Pence squirm and wiggle his way out of his Trump worship. OH MY--he's got so much back pedaling to do.
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Old May 17th, 2017, 05:22 AM   #65
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So Trump blabs top secret information to the Russians, has his minions deny it, the RWNJs scream "FAKE NEWS, it never happened" and then Trump admits he revealed top secret information to the Russians in a tweet.


And before that story can run a single news cycle, it comes out that Trump asked Comey to kill the Flynn investigation.


But......but....Goober. Trump did NOTHING WRONG. Haven't you gotten the message yet..? TRUMP NEVER EVER EVER does anything wrong.
Wouldn't you think just ONCE---JUST ONCE--that someone on DTT from the RW would at least say "I don't agree with Trump on this issue"?? BUT NOPE. No matter WHAT he does.....it's just dandy.
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But......but....Goober. Trump did NOTHING WRONG. Haven't you gotten the message yet..? TRUMP NEVER EVER EVER does anything wrong.
Wouldn't you think just ONCE---JUST ONCE--that someone on DTT from the RW would at least say "I don't agree with Trump on this issue"?? BUT NOPE. No matter WHAT he does.....it's just dandy.
So just to be fair Did Obama do wrong, how about Hillary? This should be fun
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So just to be fair Did Obama do wrong, how about Hillary? This should be fun
She's a whack job who can see no wrong in anything her "leaders" do or say.
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Old May 17th, 2017, 06:07 AM   #68
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So just to be fair Did Obama do wrong, how about Hillary? This should be fun
Everyone does wrong, remember what Lavrenty Beria said?
"Show me the man, I'll show you the crime"

It's just that in the US we have rules, and according to those rules, there was and is nothing so far that Obama or Hillary did, that would be sufficient for a prosecutor to bring charges.

And to be fair, I don't think Trump has done anything in the last few months that would merit an indictment, but he has done a lot of stupid stuff, not a crime, but really stupid....
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Everyone does wrong, remember what Lavrenty Beria said?
"Show me the man, I'll show you the crime"

It's just that in the US we have rules, and according to those rules, there was and is nothing so far that Obama or Hillary did, that would be sufficient for a prosecutor to bring charges.

And to be fair, I don't think Trump has done anything in the last few months that would merit an indictment, but he has done a lot of stupid stuff, not a crime, but really stupid....
As for Mr Obama/Trump, this is nothing new and when put into context this is a good snip and love the faux outrage from the progs:

Trump’s disclosure was certainly not illegal. The president is in charge of classified information. He has unreviewable authority to disclose it himself and to authorize executive-branch subordinates to disclose it. But legality (as Jim Geraghty explains in the “Morning Jolt”) is not the point.

The question is competence: Was the president trying to impress the Russians with his range of intelligence knowledge, even though the Russians would naturally assume an American president knew such things? If so, the incident would raise questions about Trump’s conduct of foreign policy. Avoidable gaffes can gravely imperil intelligence sources.

The doubts they can create about our government’s reliability in keeping secrets may induce allied intelligence services to withhold vital information from us. And avoidable gaffes can happen to an official who is not well versed in the give-and-take of high-level diplomatic exchanges. That would not be an excuse: President of the United States is not an entry-level position. All that said, how unusual is this sort of thing, really? It is a good question that Steve Hayward raises at Power Line — along with a Washington Post report reminding us that, less than a year ago, the Obama administration was offering to share with Russia intelligence about ISIS operations in Syria . . . which sounds an awful lot like what Trump was doing.

When Osama bin Laden was killed, President Obama was not content to explain that fact to the American people. His administration gratuitously disclosed that the raid on the al-Qaeda emir’s compound in Pakistan produced a “trove” of actionable intelligence. From a national-security standpoint, this political grandstanding was a foolish: It gave al-Qaeda operatives a heads-up that their cells and activities had likely been exposed, providing them the opportunity to disappear before our forces could roll them up. And then there is the Obama administration’s leak disclosing (to the Washington Post) General Michael Flynn’s conversations with Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak.

This was done with obvious malevolence to hurt Flynn and Trump (who had named Flynn national-security adviser). The beneficiary, however, was Russia. It received valuable information that its ambassador was under surveillance and that whatever countermeasures the Kremlin’s intelligence services had been taking had failed. This is apt to make Russian operatives more difficult to monitor in the future.

When Democrats mishandle classified information, they are earnest progressives. When Republicans do it, they are incompetent morons. More to the point, does anyone believe that American presidents other than Trump do not make highly questionable disclosures in their negotiations with hostile regimes? Remember when Obama told Putin’s factotum, Medvedev, to tell ol’ Vlad he’d have much more “flexibility” to accommodate Russian concerns after his 2012 reelection — patently signaling that Putin should just be patient and not pay too much attention to campaign rhetoric about dealing sternly with Moscow?

And what of the to-and-fro over Obama’s coveted Iran nuclear deal? Is it necessary to remind Democrats that Obama entered secret side deals with the “death to America” regime that were withheld from Congress and the American people? That was not an instance of what Trump was apparently doing — sharing some intel with a hostile government in the (probably naïve) hope of getting cooperation from that government against a common enemy. Obama was actually partnering with a hostile regime through arrangements that were against American interests and that promoted Iranian interests. Of course, the media and the intelligence bureaucracy happily gobbled up the Ben Rhodes fiction that the Iranian regime was “moderating,” and that Obama’s nuclear deal was the only alternative to war. So it was “anything goes.”

That wasn’t planeloads of intel that Obama was covertly sending to the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism; it was planeloads of cash. But to judge from the coverage, this was apparently okay because, after all, he’s Obama — the smartest, most thoughtful, most sophisticated negotiator in the history of negotiators.

Read more at: Trump Shared Classified Information? Remember Obama & Clinton | National Review
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You and Trump are clowns, CNN "Broke" the laptop story on April 1st. You're dismissed.
"dismissed".....
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