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Old May 19th, 2017, 05:08 AM   #51
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Well, nice pivot but I have no idea what my reply about posting sources has to do with your response. So let me be clear. I personally have never said that TRUMP (all by himself) invited/encouraged the Russians to hack our election. The on-going investigation is about collusion between some in his campaign and the Russians. That investigation is NOW several investigations. It's getting complicated and SHOULD be thoroughly investigated by bipartisan committees.
We the people want evidence/proof of what went down--that includes me. Facts are important. They were important throughout the Benghazi/Email debacle and they are important now.
The only voters who think they ARE NOT important seem to be Trump supporters. AND don't forget.....these investigations come on the heels of Trump's reckless behavior, his choice of cabinet and campaign advisors. Trump is a notorious liar. He brags about his bribing, his 'deals', his women, his admiration for Putin, his hidden tax returns, his wealth, his power..........so excuse us if we question his "WORD".
Reputations are built on actions and reputations crumble on actions. Trump is on very shaky ground right now.
Your god SEEMS to be Donald J Trump.
Mental Illness runs rampant, this I can not help.

Post some damn facts and not fantasy. Russians did not hack the election.
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Old May 19th, 2017, 06:57 AM   #52
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First of all, I didn't say anything about a 'credible' source. I said source or link. Let the reader beware. Let the reader decide how credible the source it.
Secondly, Wa Po is a pulitzer prize winning newspaper--always has been. There are journalistic standards and anonymous sources have always been available and protected.
Every main stream media has entire legal departments who scrutinize anything and everything that could be contrued as libel/false/illegal.
I have stated several times that Trump created this war with the press and it was an extremely stupid thing to do. In my opinion, it is the American MSM that will ultimately TAKE Trump down.
You are defending a system that does not have to base its facts on evidence. You are defending it because in your mind it gets you the desired result. I feel sorry for all of us if you get your way. Lying is not illegal maybe, but please do not insult your own intelligence by saying that anonymous sources has always been acceptable. I am certain you know better than that.
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Old May 19th, 2017, 07:20 AM   #53
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Mental Illness runs rampant, this I can not help.

Post some damn facts and not fantasy. Russians did not hack the election.


Then why do our intelligence communities tell us Russians DID interfere in the U.S. presidential election? Their report stated Russia used disinformation, data thefts, and leaks to attempt to advantage Trump over Clinton. These conclusions were reaffirmed by the lead intelligence officials in the Trump administration as recently as May. Intelligence allies of the U.S. in Europe found communications between suspected Russian agents and the Trump campaign as early as 2015. Six federal agencies have also been investigating possible links and financial ties between the Kremlin and Trump's associates, including his son in law Jared Kushner and advisers Carter Page, Paul Manafort and Roger Stone.

Obviously, you have no confidence in our FBI, CIA, DOJ, NSA, or lead investigators in the Trump administration.
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Old May 19th, 2017, 07:44 AM   #54
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Then why do our intelligence communities tell us Russians DID interfere in the U.S. presidential election? Their report stated Russia used disinformation, data thefts, and leaks to attempt to advantage Trump over Clinton. These conclusions were reaffirmed by the lead intelligence officials in the Trump administration as recently as May. Intelligence allies of the U.S. in Europe found communications between suspected Russian agents and the Trump campaign as early as 2015. Six federal agencies have also been investigating possible links and financial ties between the Kremlin and Trump's associates, including his son in law Jared Kushner and advisers Carter Page, Paul Manafort and Roger Stone.

Obviously, you have no confidence in our FBI, CIA, DOJ, NSA, or lead investigators in the Trump administration.
They (Russians ?) hacked the DNC, In return the DNC would not let the FBI investigate said servers and data. What does the DNC have to hide?

It is amusing the Democrats are screaming bloody murder but would not facilitate the FBI during the hacking and initial investigation.
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Just to keep everyone's memory fresh and in context:

Washington (CNN)The Democratic National Committee "rebuffed" a request from the FBI to examine its computer services after it was allegedly hacked by Russia during the 2016 election, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Thursday.

"The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," a senior law enforcement official told CNN. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."
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You are defending a system that does not have to base its facts on evidence. You are defending it because in your mind it gets you the desired result. I feel sorry for all of us if you get your way. Lying is not illegal maybe, but please do not insult your own intelligence by saying that anonymous sources has always been acceptable. I am certain you know better than that.
I was in Singapore for a short time in 1972 and your country has a unique form of punishment, caning using a bamboo rod applied by a martial arts expert.

A few years back a rich young American got caught putting graffiti on buildings and he got caned which made his mind right.
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Old May 19th, 2017, 10:26 AM   #57
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Why I am supplying this I don't know since you live by two sets of rules Your Highness.

Hillary Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, bolsters Trump argument, study finds - Washington Times
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Trump argument bolstered: Clinton could have received 800,000 votes from noncitizens
Disingenuous at best.
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A link to my history of posts?

I don't get it.
That's true of many, many things.
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Old May 19th, 2017, 10:29 AM   #59
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Mental Illness runs rampant, this I can not help.

Post some damn facts and not fantasy. Russians did not hack the election.
You state that as a fact. Any justification or is it Trump's voice in your head telling you that?

How often does he talk to you that way?

So let's talk about mental illness.
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Just to keep everyone's memory fresh and in context:

Washington (CNN)The Democratic National Committee "rebuffed" a request from the FBI to examine its computer services after it was allegedly hacked by Russia during the 2016 election, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Thursday.

"The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," a senior law enforcement official told CNN. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."
Oh, so when it's something you like, anonymous sources are just fine I see.
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