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Old June 6th, 2017, 04:46 PM   #1
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Imams refuse to give Islamic burials for London attackers in 'unprecedented move'

International Business Times 5 June 2017

More than 130 British imams have refused to give Islamic burials to the London attackers because they believe their actions are incompatible with Islam.

An Islamic burial is a ritual provided to every Muslim regardless of their actions in life but the group has refuse to conduct such ceremonies for the three men who killed seven and injured dozens by London Bridge and Borough Market on Saturday (4 June).

In a statement posted to Facebook that also named the imams, they said: "We will not perform the traditional Islamic funeral prayer for the perpetrators and we also urge fellow imams and religious authorities to withdraw such a privilege".

So far Scotland Yard have named Khuram Butt and Rachid Redouane, both from from Barking, east London, as two of the trio shot dead just eight minutes after they began their killing spree, which started when they mowed down pedestrians before leaping out of the vehicle and stabbing people in a popular night-life district.

Imam Abdullah Hasan of Imams Against Domestic Abuse, who posted the statement, described the move as "unprecedented" although mosques in Manchester and the US have refused to bury Muslims involved in terror attacks.

The statement continued: "Though at no time is it acceptable, that such ruthless violence was perpetrated during the season of Ramadan, in which Muslims worldwide focus on pious devotion, prayer, charity and the cultivation of good character, demonstrates how utterly misguided and distant the terrorists are from our faith and the contempt which they hold for its values."

The Pakistan-born Butt had appeared in the Channel 4 documentary 'The Jihadist Next Door' in which an Isis flag was flown in a London park.

A father-of-two and Arsenal FC fan he was believed to be working in a KFC fast-food restaurant close to his home.

Redouane, believed to be from Morocco or Libya, was believed to have been married to a Scottish woman and may have used the name Rachid Elkhdar.

Two of the victims have been named as James McMullan, 32, from Hackney and Canadian Christine Archibald, 30, who volunteered with the homeless and moved to the capital with her fiancÚ.

In response to the attack a multi-faith vigil in solidarity with the victims was held in London with the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, leading the vigil and joined by Home Secretary Amber Rudd, Shadow Home Secretary, Diane Abbott, and the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby.
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Old June 6th, 2017, 05:29 PM   #2
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actually, muslims are a diverse group of people where sweeping generalisations dont apply.

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Muslims are consequently extremely reluctant to refer to the human bombers as suicide bombers. They refer to them instead as shuhada (in singular: shahid), or martyrs.

Most families seem to be similarly proud of their kin who become shuhada. According to a verse in the Koran that is quoted often by the shahid’s family and friends, the shahid does not die. From a religious point of view, a crucial element in being a shahid is purity of motive (niyya), doing God’s will rather than acting out of self-interest. Acting because of one’s personal plight or to achieve glory are not pure motives. Most of the families of the shuhada accordingly want to present their suicides in the best possible light. To honor and admire the family of a shahid is a religious obligation and the family’s status is thus elevated among religious and traditionalist Palestinians. In addition families of shuhada receive substantial financial rewards, mainly from Gulf countries and especially from Saudi Arabia, but also from a special fund created by Saddam Hussein. So far as I know, no one who has followed the history of the shuhada closely believes that money is what makes their families support them, although it helps.
The Suicide Bombers | by Avishai Margalit | The New York Review of Books
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A Danish Muslim group has offered to bury one of the jihadists who murdered a French priest, after Muslim leaders in France refused to give the terrorists funerals
Danish Muslims offer to bury ISIS terrorist refused religious funeral by French leaders | Daily Mail Online
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Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, who opened fire on a San Bernardino holiday party earlier this month, were buried Tuesday in a quiet, graveside funeral.

Many of those who attended mosque with the couple refused to attend, two mosque members said.

U.S.-born Farook, 28, and his Pakistani-born wife Malik, 29, killed 14 people and injured 21, in what U.S. officials have called a terrorist attack. They died later that day in a gun battle with police.

The funeral followed traditional Islamic rituals, said an attendee. At a Muslim cemetery hours away from San Bernardino, the bodies were cleansed according to Islamic rules, wrapped in white cloth and buried.
Exclusive: San Bernardino shooters buried in quiet funeral following Islamic rituals | Reuters
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Just goes to show that some Muslims agree with the radical extremists and some vehemently disagree with it.

Just as there are many who agree with the vicious and mean-spirited teachings of the evangelical American Christian religion and there are just as many who hold it in contempt.

Painting all people within one faith with one wide brush is a petty and childish move.
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Imams refuse to give Islamic burials for London attackers in 'unprecedented move'

International Business Times 5 June 2017

More than 130 British imams have refused to give Islamic burials to the London attackers because they believe their actions are incompatible with Islam.

An Islamic burial is a ritual provided to every Muslim regardless of their actions in life but the group has refuse to conduct such ceremonies for the three men who killed seven and injured dozens by London Bridge and Borough Market on Saturday (4 June).

In a statement posted to Facebook that also named the imams, they said: "We will not perform the traditional Islamic funeral prayer for the perpetrators and we also urge fellow imams and religious authorities to withdraw such a privilege".

So far Scotland Yard have named Khuram Butt and Rachid Redouane, both from from Barking, east London, as two of the trio shot dead just eight minutes after they began their killing spree, which started when they mowed down pedestrians before leaping out of the vehicle and stabbing people in a popular night-life district.

Imam Abdullah Hasan of Imams Against Domestic Abuse, who posted the statement, described the move as "unprecedented" although mosques in Manchester and the US have refused to bury Muslims involved in terror attacks.

The statement continued: "Though at no time is it acceptable, that such ruthless violence was perpetrated during the season of Ramadan, in which Muslims worldwide focus on pious devotion, prayer, charity and the cultivation of good character, demonstrates how utterly misguided and distant the terrorists are from our faith and the contempt which they hold for its values."

The Pakistan-born Butt had appeared in the Channel 4 documentary 'The Jihadist Next Door' in which an Isis flag was flown in a London park.

A father-of-two and Arsenal FC fan he was believed to be working in a KFC fast-food restaurant close to his home.

Redouane, believed to be from Morocco or Libya, was believed to have been married to a Scottish woman and may have used the name Rachid Elkhdar.

Two of the victims have been named as James McMullan, 32, from Hackney and Canadian Christine Archibald, 30, who volunteered with the homeless and moved to the capital with her fiancÚ.

In response to the attack a multi-faith vigil in solidarity with the victims was held in London with the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, leading the vigil and joined by Home Secretary Amber Rudd, Shadow Home Secretary, Diane Abbott, and the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby.
I wonder why ? They refused so they can keep planning other attacks, and stay incognito.
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No higher religion refuses burial to the dead; it is the mark of total primitives.
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are you serious? The Catholics refuse burial for any number of reasons.
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Just goes to show that some Muslims agree with the radical extremists and some vehemently disagree with it.

Just as there are many who agree with the vicious and mean-spirited teachings of the evangelical American Christian religion and there are just as many who hold it in contempt.

Painting all people within one faith with one wide brush is a petty and childish move.
Who is doing that?
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are you serious? The Catholics refuse burial for any number of reasons.
What I have written I have written!
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