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Old July 8th, 2017, 05:09 PM   #1
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More Fusion GPS / Russia Shenanigans?

Quite possibly.


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President Trump’s eldest son briefly gathered others for the meeting, including his brother-in-law Jared Kushner, as well as then-presidential campaign manager Paul Manafort for the meeting at Trump Tower in New York City with the lawyer, identified by Trump family lawyers as Natalia Veselnitskaya.

Veselnitskaya used the meeting in June 2016 to have a conversation about a U.S. law called the Magnitsky Act that Russia leader Vladimir Putin reviles and has retaliated against by blocking U.S. adoptions of Russian children.

The encounter was short and the Trump team had no further contact with the woman or the policy issue, lawyers said.

The meeting was recently disclosed to congressional investigators by one of the attendees, according to sources directly familiar with the disclosure.

President Trump was not aware of the meeting and did not attend it, according to the lawyers. A translator and an American businessman working for a pro-Russian business lobby also attended the meeting, which lasted about 20 minutes, according to the interviews.


The president’s legal team said Saturday they believe the entire meeting may have been part of a larger election-year opposition effort aimed at creating the appearance of improper connections between Trump family members and Russia that also included a now-discredited intelligence dossier produced by a former British intelligence agent named Christopher Steele who worked for a U.S. political firm known as Fusion GPS.

“We have learned from both our own investigation and public reports that the participants in the meeting misrepresented who they were and who they worked for,” said Mark Corallo, a spokesman for President Trump’s legal team. “Specifically, we have learned that the person who sought the meeting is associated with Fusion GPS, a firm which according to public reports, was retained by Democratic operatives to develop opposition research on the President and which commissioned the phony Steele dossier. "

"These developments raise serious issues as to exactly who authorized and participated in any effort by Russian nationals to influence our election in any manner,” Corallo said.

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Bear with me and let's see if I understand this--maybe you can do so without insults??

So in June 2016 (before Trump was nominated) Trump, Jr. met with a Russian attorney, Kushner, Manafort and a gaggle of others to....chat about a U.S. law that Putin doesn't particularly like? AND this was some kind of conspiracy set up by the DNC?

Trump wasn't president yet. Didn't even have the nomination yet....but it was a set up so Trump would not get the nomination or the presidency even though his Russian connection was NOT common knowledge at that time and most people thought Trump had no chance to win the White House.......and Trump didn't know anything about it even though his SON set it up?

WHY? Why have the meeting? Why wouldn't Trump know about it if it concerned his campaign or shot at the presidency? Why meet with a Russian attorney?

This makes no sense at all.
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Old July 9th, 2017, 05:21 AM   #3
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Bear with me and let's see if I understand this--maybe you can do so without insults??

So in June 2016 (before Trump was nominated) Trump, Jr. met with a Russian attorney, Kushner, Manafort and a gaggle of others to....chat about a U.S. law that Putin doesn't particularly like? AND this was some kind of conspiracy set up by the DNC?

Trump wasn't president yet. Didn't even have the nomination yet....but it was a set up so Trump would not get the nomination or the presidency even though his Russian connection was NOT common knowledge at that time and most people thought Trump had no chance to win the White House.......and Trump didn't know anything about it even though his SON set it up?

WHY? Why have the meeting? Why wouldn't Trump know about it if it concerned his campaign or shot at the presidency? Why meet with a Russian attorney?

This makes no sense at all.
Oh c'mon Clara. Don't you know that it was the DNC that forced Chump administration members to lie about at least 18 Russian contacts they had including this one that took place at TRUMP TOWER ?
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Old July 9th, 2017, 09:46 AM   #4
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Obama went on a world foreign policy tour prior to being officially nominated in 2008.

Here we have one 20 minute meeting, and it may well be as, the OP points out, "part of a larger election-year opposition effort aimed at creating the appearance of improper connections between Trump family members and Russia that also included a now-discredited intelligence dossier produced by a former British intelligence agent named Christopher Steele who worked for a U.S. political firm known as Fusion GPS."

Fusion GPS was started by a never-Trumper, then was taken over by Democrats.

So far, Fusion GPS has refused to cooperate with Senator Grassley. I imagine subpoenas will follow.

https://www.circa.com/story/2017/06/...d-sen-grassley

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Obama tour 2008.

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Obama's visit is among the most unusual ever undertaken by a presumptive White House nominee, planned with the attention to detail of a trip by a president and as heavily hyped abroad as at home. The senator from Illinois will meet with a succession of foreign leaders, make symbolically important visits and hold at least one large public event -- all with an eye to how the trip is playing in the United States.

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What in the world does Obama's tour in 2008 have to do with this Russian Shenanigans article?

AND of course NOW there is much more coming to light. The NYTs says this:

President Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign, according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.

The meeting was also attended by his campaign chairman at the time, Paul J. Manafort, and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Mr. Manafort and Mr. Kushner only recently disclosed the meeting, though not its content, in confidential government documents described to The New York Times.

The Times reported the existence of the meeting on Saturday. But in subsequent interviews, the advisers and others revealed the motivation behind it.

The meeting wasn't BEFORE Trump's nomination. IT WAS AFTER.

JUDAS! These people are so dirty...and what is Fox News reporting: It's a NOTHING BURGER.
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Clara, do try and follow for a change. After all, you posted this:

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Bear with me and let's see if I understand this--maybe you can do so without insults??

So in June 2016 (before Trump was nominated) Trump, Jr. met with a Russian attorney, Kushner, Manafort and a gaggle of others to....chat about a U.S. law that Putin doesn't particularly like? AND this was some kind of conspiracy set up by the DNC?

Trump wasn't president yet. Didn't even have the nomination yet....

And then I showed that Obama went on a foreign policy tour before he was nominated. Easy connection.

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... but it was a set up so Trump would not get the nomination or the presidency even though his Russian connection was NOT common knowledge at that time and most people thought Trump had no chance to win the White House ...

Who said that bolded part?
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It is a nothing burger. It would have been remiss of Donald Trump, Jr. not to be interested in what they had to say, and the conversation was switched to the adoption issue.

From the NYT article:

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In a statement on Sunday, Donald Trump Jr. said he had met with the Russian lawyer at the request of an acquaintance. “After pleasantries were exchanged,” he said, “the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.”

He said she then turned the conversation to adoption of Russian children and the Magnitsky Act, an American law that blacklists suspected Russian human rights abusers. The law so enraged President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia that he retaliated by halting American adoptions of Russian children.

“It became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting,” Mr. Trump said.

When he was first asked about the meeting on Saturday, he said only that it was primarily about adoptions and mentioned nothing about Mrs. Clinton.
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Clara, do try and follow for a change. After all, you posted this:




And then I showed that Obama went on a foreign policy tour before he was nominated. Easy connection.




Who said that bolded part?


YEAH...all that is about as clear as mud. Just spit it out for heaven's sake!

Obama went on a world tour in 2008 because he had no foreign policy experience. Last paragraph says it all: "Obama doesn't have to prove to right-wingers that he's ready to be commander in chief," he said. "He has to prove to moderate Democrats and independents that he is a serious person who can operate on the world stage with a moderate chance of being successful. . . . He has to have enough credibility not to be unacceptable on national security. He doesn't have to have enough credibility for that to be his strong suit."

I still have NO IDEA how this relates to Trump and the Russkies.
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If there is truth to the fact that Clinton and the DNC were behind this so-called meeting to 'set up' Trump, then WHY didn't Don Jr. report this to the U.S. intel agencies. Junior should have reached out to law enforcement immediately.
Why is this coming out now? Does not meet the smell test.

Robert Mueller MAY have more information on this. At this point we don't know WHAT he has.
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