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Old July 13th, 2017, 10:08 AM   #61
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So?

If she had a valid Visa then what is the problem?
She didn't have a visa. She was given a special entrance by the state department.
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Old July 13th, 2017, 10:52 AM   #62
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Did Trump Jr. know this lawyer was a foreign national? Yes

Did Trump Jr expect to receive damaging info on Clinton from this person? Yes

Is damaging info on Clinton something that the Trump campaign would have paid money for? Yes

Given these three undeniable facts this means that Trump Jr met with a foreign national in an attempt to receive "something of value" for his fathers campaign. This is a clear violation of election law.
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Again, so?
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Old July 13th, 2017, 10:53 AM   #63
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I didn't say that Trump Jr. was going to pay for the information.

I said campaigns have routinely paid for such information in the past making such information "something of value"
So Trump Jr. did not have to commit a crime to be prosecuted. Makes sense to me. "Something of value" is not the law and not applicable.
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If she had a valid Visa then what is the problem?
She was denied a visa.
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Old July 13th, 2017, 11:02 AM   #65
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I like this theory. It will be easy to put to bed.


Once that is done do you think we can move on?

This Russia malarkey is getting a bit old.
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Old July 13th, 2017, 11:06 AM   #66
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So Trump Jr. did not have to commit a crime to be prosecuted. Makes sense to me. "Something of value" is not the law and not applicable.
Actually it IS part of the law.

US CODE Title 11, Chapter I, Subchapter A, Part 110, Section 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals

(a) Definitions
(2) Donation - Has the same meaning as CFR 11 300.2 (e)

Going to CFR11 300.2(e)

Donation means a payment, gift, subscription, loan, advance, deposit, or anything of value given to a person, but does not include contributions.
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Old July 13th, 2017, 11:08 AM   #67
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I like this theory. It will be easy to put to bed.


Once that is done do you think we can move on?

This Russia malarkey is getting a bit old.
Trump Jr. is only one part of the story that is emerging, even if you put this story "to bed" there is still a bunch of other stuff to be investigated.

But if you want to put this to bed, explain to me how what Jr. did was NOT a violation of the law.
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Old July 13th, 2017, 11:14 AM   #68
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Actually it IS part of the law.

US CODE Title 11, Chapter I, Subchapter A, Part 110, Section 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals

(a) Definitions
(2) Donation - Has the same meaning as CFR 11 300.2 (e)

Going to CFR11 300.2(e)

Donation means a payment, gift, subscription, loan, advance, deposit, or anything of value given to a person, but does not include contributions.
You have the wrong part of the law and the wrong definition and intent of the law. You also seem to have forgotten that there is a First Amendment and the controlling precedent of the Pentagon Papers.
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Just another big "Nothing Burger". No laws broken, just a waste of our tax money, but then when did the Democrats ever care about spending our tax money.
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Old July 13th, 2017, 11:21 AM   #70
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You have the wrong part of the law and the wrong definition and intent of the law. You also seem to have forgotten that there is a First Amendment and the controlling precedent of the Pentagon Papers.
The Pentagon Papers?

What the hell does the Pentagon Papers have to do with a foreign national attempting to give information of value to a presidential campaign?

Once again the usual jimmyb M.O. Bring up some unrelated topic to try and derail the current conversation.

Keep cooing away there pigeon boy, the chess game isn't over yet.
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