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Old July 28th, 2017, 01:53 PM   #1
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No surprise, free cheese faction stifles Obamacare repeal

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See Obamacare Repeal Fails: Three GOP Senators Rebel in 49-51 Vote

7/28/17

”Three Republican senators — John McCain, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski — and all Democrats voted against the bill, dealing a stinging defeat to Republicans and President Donald Trump who made repeal of Obamacare a cornerstone their campaigns.”

Well, look at the voting record of the 51 who voted against a mere “skinny repeal” of Obamacare, and it vindicates our founders’ refusal to grant power to Congress over the “social needs” of the people within the various United States.

The sad truth is, our founders warned us about the dangers of factions and why they avoided granting power to Congress over those objects which “…in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.” See Federalist Number 45.


By limiting our federal government’s responsibilities to such matters as war, peace, the regulation of commerce with foreign nations, i.e., ___ those items which are enumerated beneath Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1 __ our founders avoided the danger of creating countless factions on a federal level by denying power to the federal government to meddle in the social needs of the people within the various states, and they intentionally left those matters within the jurisdiction of each state and people therein.

But now, with this separation of powers having been breached by Congress and countless “entitlements” having been unconstitutionally created to satisfy the personal economic needs of the people within the various state borders, our national unfunded debt liability is an estimated $125 TRILLION, while our free cheese factious groups account for The Largest Item In The Federal Budget!

Have we not witnessed our federal government being reduced to a state of paralysis brought on by countless free cheese factions whose interests have nothing to do with our federal government’s constitutionally assigned duties? And who are some of these factious groups who have cause a paralysis in Congress? Federally subsidized health-care recipients; federally subsidized food stamp recipients; federally subsidized Section Eight Housing recipients; federally funded unemployment benefit recipients; federally funded student loans and grant recipients; and millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders who are also the recipients of free government cheese. These are just a few of our nations free cheese factious groups who have brought our federal government to the brink of bankruptcy.

If we don’t reverse our federal government’s tax-payers vs tax-getters redistribution policies, we will surely suffer the same fate as Venezuela, Chile, the UK, and other socialist countries which, instead of protecting the people’s inalienable right to succeed or fail at their own hand, have decided to use government force to steal the product of one person’s labor which is then transferred to another group to be used for their personal economic needs, which is an immoral use of government force.

John Adams was absolutely correct when he wrote: "democracy will envy all, contend with all, endeavor to pull down all; and when by chance it happens to get the upper hand for a short time, it will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel..."


We are now witnessing what our founders intentionally sought to prevent when they limited our federal government’s authority to such matters as war, peace, the regulation of commerce with foreign nations, i.e., ___ those items which are enumerated beneath Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1, and they do not include the social needs of the people within the various states.


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Old July 28th, 2017, 04:31 PM   #2
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Ever read the constitution? It establishes a congress to make laws, and a court to rule on whether those laws are constitutional.

Can you direct me to the section of the constitution that says your opinion is valid?
Because the congress put ObamaCare in place and the court said it was fine.
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Old July 28th, 2017, 05:16 PM   #3
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Ever read the constitution? It establishes a congress to make laws, and a court to rule on whether those laws are constitutional.

Can you direct me to the section of the constitution that says your opinion is valid?
Because the congress put ObamaCare in place and the court said it was fine.
Are you talking about "that" SC that can do no wrong, and doesn't make mistakes? The ACA is an absolute mess and the Demorats, with the help of the SC, initiated it. I wonder how John Roberts feels about his decision now?
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Old July 28th, 2017, 06:29 PM   #4
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Can you direct me to the section of the constitution that says your opinion is valid?

Article VI


"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; . . . shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."



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Old July 28th, 2017, 06:35 PM   #5
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Article VI


"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; . . . shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."



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The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it.
_____HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)


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What do you think that means?
Clearly, it doesn't mean what you think it means, because the things that you think it prohibits, are the rights it actually protects, in the real world.
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Old July 28th, 2017, 06:40 PM   #6
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Are you talking about "that" SC that can do no wrong, and doesn't make mistakes? The ACA is an absolute mess and the Demorats, with the help of the SC, initiated it. I wonder how John Roberts feels about his decision now?
The constitution is the rules by which the game is played.
You don't like the way the game is played, but you're just a guy in the stands, it's the officials who make the calls according to the rules as they understand them.
That's how real life works.
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Ever read the constitution? It establishes a congress to make laws, and a court to rule on whether those laws are constitutional.

Can you direct me to the section of the constitution that says your opinion is valid?
Because the congress put ObamaCare in place and the court said it was fine.
Why don't you direct me to the section of the Constitution that states that.
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The constitution is the rules by which the game is played.
You don't like the way the game is played, but you're just a guy in the stands, it's the officials who make the calls according to the rules as they understand them.
That's how real life works.
Where are these rules in the Constitution?
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Where are these rules in the Constitution?
You're just pretending to be stupid, right?
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You're just pretending to be stupid, right?
Where? Post a few of them.
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