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Old September 3rd, 2017, 09:58 AM   #51
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You have a beef with the statistic not the unsubstantiated part. You do not like the fact that Trump has affected this positive fact and that Mexico is indeed paying for the wall by retaining its poor illegal border crossers instead of the USA.

Trumpís immigration enforcement helps slow illegal border crossings by 76%

Illegal immigration across southwest border down 70 percent under Trump - Washington Times
And this has what to do with building a wall, the topic of this thread?
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 10:04 AM   #52
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And this has what to do with building a wall, the topic of this thread?
I enjoy the fact that you want to debate in a circle. It looks ridiculous when you read the thread and watch you squirm back and forth.


The fact is that illegal immigration has been reduced drastically simply by Trump's policy announcement. That is saving the USA billions of dollars in schools and hospitals and in welfare and up and down the line. Billions that can now pay for the wall. So Mexico is already paying for the wall. Trump was correct yet again.
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 10:12 AM   #53
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I enjoy the fact that you want to debate in a circle. It looks ridiculous when you read the thread and watch you squirm back and forth.


The fact is that illegal immigration has been reduced drastically simply by Trump's policy announcement. That is saving the USA billions of dollars in schools and hospitals and in welfare and up and down the line. Billions that can now pay for the wall. So Mexico is already paying for the wall. Trump was correct yet again.
Total rubbish.
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 10:20 AM   #54
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Total rubbish.
What do you think a million poor illegals crossing the border costs the USA in a year? Billions. That is money that Mexico must pay instead of the USA. Thank you President Trump.

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Old September 3rd, 2017, 10:46 AM   #55
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I enjoy the fact that you want to debate in a circle. It looks ridiculous when you read the thread and watch you squirm back and forth.


The fact is that illegal immigration has been reduced drastically simply by Trump's policy announcement. That is saving the USA billions of dollars in schools and hospitals and in welfare and up and down the line. Billions that can now pay for the wall. So Mexico is already paying for the wall. Trump was correct yet again.
I'm not debating in any circle, and since starting off a post with an insult is your preference, here's one at cha. You have established beyond a doubt that you are a shameless sheeple, a DJT devotee, a person who has demonstrated no ability to think for himself.

Now that's out of the way, the obvious solution to illegal immigration is and always has been: Hammer those who employ them, yes, including large corporations. Fine them cruelly. Make examples of them

A wall is just an extension of ignoring the obvious solution. All you're doing is running interference for all those establishment types who fatten their bottom line with illegal labor. Are you proud of yourself?

Now, name me one big corporate bust your god has pulled off. I'll wait.

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Old September 3rd, 2017, 10:51 AM   #56
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I'm not debating in any circle, and since starting off a post with an insult is your preference, here's one at cha.Yyou have established beyond a doubt that you are a shameless sheeple, a DJT devotee, a person who has demonstrated no ability to think for himself.

Now that's out of the way, the obvious solution to illegal immigration is and always has been: Hammer those who employ them, yes, including large corporations. Fine them cruelly. Make examples of them

A wall is just an extension of ignoring the obvious solution. All you're doing is running interference for all those establishment types who fatten their bottom line with illegal labor. Are you proud of yourself?

Now, name me one big corporate bust your god has pulled off. I'll wait.
Facts are facts. Illegal immigration down some 70% Trump is successful already.
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 10:57 AM   #57
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Facts are facts. Illegal immigration down some 70% Trump is successful already.
Total dodge. Thanks for demonstrating that my assessment of you was spot on. Now run along, find you another thread, one in which you can deny some more science for your masters.
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 01:01 PM   #58
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"Trump is successful already." #57
"Successful" and "beneficial" are not synonyms.

There's a reason congress has allowed the "illegal" immigration issue to fester for so many decades.
Despite propaganda to the contrary, "illegal" immigrants are a net gain for the U.S. economy.
They help hold down costs on entire sectors of our economy:
- new home construction
- fresh farm produce
- factory labor (Hormel meat packing plant)

With Trump administration "success" like this, you can expect costs / prices in such sectors to rise.
And if such "illegals" were a significant issue, we can expect such costs / prices to increase substantially.

And if not, then why did candidate Trump make such a campaign issue of it?
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Yes he has He got out of the way and let DHS Do it's job THAT IS WHY people in NJ and NY are still waiting for aid post Sandy.. Because Obama failed to get out of the way.
That has exactly what to do with my post?
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That would be millions of dollars not leaving the U.S.. Bids for prototypes have already begun. And as the deportations, and self deportations rise the costs annually to supplement the illegal aliens will decrease. We are now spending $115-Billion annually just on supplementation alone. The cost savings alone will pay for the Wall.
HOW IS THAT PAYING FOR THE WALL???
If fewer legal and illegals are NOT here working and NOT sending a portion of their earnings home that means that portion of their earnings they did NOT send home to Mexico was also NOT spent here in American stores and sales taxes and other user fees were NOT paid to the U.S. Treasury.
Correct?

You' people have no idea in the world how budgets work, just a desperate desire to try and keep Lord lard-Ass from looking like less of a liar and a fool.
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