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Old September 2nd, 2017, 05:30 AM   #11
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So what programs has the President put in place to deliver this growth?
Or is this just a continuation of the economic expansion that began in 2009?
Economic growth rates were in decline from 2010 to 2016, down to a miserable 1.6% in 2016.
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Old September 2nd, 2017, 05:32 AM   #12
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I know what he's announced, what has actually happened?
How do you tie that to the increased growth?

And is one quarter enough to declare victory?
Bush looked pretty good for a while, before he delivered the worst economic record since Hoover.
Then Obama got GWB off the hook by delivering up an even worse economic record. Obama now holds the title for worst economic record of any modern POTUS.
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Old September 2nd, 2017, 05:35 AM   #13
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There were 12,000,000 jobs created during the OBAMA administration.

6,500,000 of those jobs were PART TIME or temp jobs.

That is why the U6 in 2008 and 2016 was 9.2%

The U3 unemployment rate (which you love to quote, counts FULL TIME and PART TIME and TEMP jobs) as full time employment.

the U6 does not count part time and Temp Jobs as full time employment.

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It's all relative, the only job growth during the Bush administration was from the expansion of government, private sector employment went down, the economy crashed, the worst downturn since the Depression, that's where Obama started.
Bush started with the lowest unemployment of his 8 years and a budget surplus, 8 years of Republican "pro growth policy" later, and we had a 1.8 trillion dollar deficit and we were shedding a half million jobs a month.

Obama turned that around, cut the deficit, dropped the unemployment rate, added 12 million jobs.

Judge Trump when he leaves office, then you'll see what he did.
But celebrating the continuing growth from Obama policies might just be the only good thing there will be to say about Trump.
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Old September 2nd, 2017, 05:41 AM   #14
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And what exactly did Mr Trump do to increase GDP? Build walls to keep the Mexicans in, or what?
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It's all relative, the only job growth during the Bush administration was from the expansion of government, private sector employment went down, the economy crashed, the worst downturn since the Depression, that's where Obama started.
Bush started with the lowest unemployment of his 8 years and a budget surplus, 8 years of Republican "pro growth policy" later, and we had a 1.8 trillion dollar deficit and we were shedding a half million jobs a month.

Obama turned that around, cut the deficit, dropped the unemployment rate, added 12 million jobs.

Judge Trump when he leaves office, then you'll see what he did.
But celebrating the continuing growth from Obama policies might just be the only good thing there will be to say about Trump.
Non-growth is relative? Relative to what?...non-growth?
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And what exactly did Mr Trump do to increase GDP? Build walls to keep the Mexicans in, or what?
Removed ~800 Regulations that were preventing growth that were put into place by Obama's XOs, EPA, DOE and DOL.


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It's all relative, the only job growth during the Bush administration was from the expansion of government, private sector employment went down, the economy crashed, the worst downturn since the Depression, that's where Obama started.
Bush started with the lowest unemployment of his 8 years and a budget surplus, 8 years of Republican "pro growth policy" later, and we had a 1.8 trillion dollar deficit and we were shedding a half million jobs a month.

Obama turned that around, cut the deficit, dropped the unemployment rate, added 12 million jobs.

Judge Trump when he leaves office, then you'll see what he did.
But celebrating the continuing growth from Obama policies might just be the only good thing there will be to say about Trump.

when bush took office there were 129,000,000 full time employed

When bush left office there were 137,000,000 full time employed

When Obama Took office there were of course 137,000,000 full time employed

when he left office 143,000,000 full time employed

Full time employment increased 8,000,000 under Bush only 6,000,000 under Obama.

Today there are 146,000,000 full time employment. (This is because all the part time employment was upsized to full time as you can tell by the large decline in U6 unemployment.)

Trump has already had 1/2 as many full time employment gains that Obama had in 8 years.
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Non-growth is relative? Relative to what?...non-growth?
I'm saying that you can't judge a president by the first couple of months, give em a few years at least to see what their policies actually do.

So what growth is attributable to what regulations he removed?

When he removed the regulation that rebuilding with federal money has to consider the effects of flood zones, which he may actually restore before the repeal actually affects a single dollar spent, is that what cause the growth?

Or is it that the second quarter is usually the strongest quarter of the year?
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I'm saying that you can't judge a president by the first couple of months, give em a few years at least to see what their policies actually do.

So what growth is attributable to what regulations he removed?

When he removed the regulation that rebuilding with federal money has to consider the effects of flood zones, which he may actually restore before the repeal actually affects a single dollar spent, is that what cause the growth?

Or is it that the second quarter is usually the strongest quarter of the year?
What has changed since December, That has allowed Full time Job Growth to be 50% the last 8 month of Job Growth to be of the PREVIOUS 8 YEARS..

Trump's Deregulation.
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What has changed since December, That has allowed Full time Job Growth to be 50% the last 8 month of Job Growth to be of the PREVIOUS 8 YEARS..

Trump's Deregulation.
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