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Old September 2nd, 2017, 07:23 PM   #21
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Another Trump Promise Kept 3% GDP growth.
Trump kept a promise ?!

Excellent !

Please quote the exact wording of that alleged promise, and then disclose the details of his compliance.

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"Then Obama got GWB off the hook by delivering up an even worse economic record." L #12

That is beyond hysterical !
I'd never have dreamed anyone could lie so unpersuasively.

You've already posted the lie. Here's the correction:
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“... Reince Priebus, the Republican National Chairman today said that 300K jobs ... aught to be expected every month ... and just a historical perspective:

- during the 8 years of President Bush (younger) there were 2.1 million net jobs created in the United States. Of the 2.1 million, 1.8 million of them were in the public sector ... that means there were 300,000 jobs in the private sector in 8 months, in 8 years rather, net ...
more jobs have been created in the United States in the last 4 years than in Europe, Japan, all the industrialized modern world combined. ...
70 years since WWII. 36 years of Republican presidents, 34 years of Democratic presidents. In those 70 years, there were 36.7 million jobs created under Republican presidents ... a little over half the time. In 34 years there were 63.7 million created by Democrats. That's 29 million more. You know, perhaps it's an accident once, or twice or what. But I mean at some point the Democrats ought to be comfort in the fact that they have been better the economy and job creation than have been the opposition.
...
It's 15 years since we've had 10 consecutive months of over 200,000 [job growth]. Just 15 years ago there was a fella from Arkansas ... there were more jobs created in Bill Clinton's 8 years than there were in Ronald Reagan's 8 years, and the 12 years of both Bush's combined. I mean 6 million more jobs created in those 8 years, ... policy does kick in, & is reflected in the results.” Mark Shields
U.S. President Bush has by far the worst economic record by the Reagan standard, than any other U.S. president.
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"Then Obama got GWB off the hook by delivering up an even worse economic record." L #12

- wow -
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 04:26 AM   #22
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Removed ~800 Regulations that were preventing growth that were put into place by Obama's XOs, EPA, DOE and DOL.


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You seriously believe that is what increased GDP? Faith is not dead!
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 05:36 AM   #23
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when bush took office there were 129,000,000 full time employed

When bush left office there were 137,000,000 full time employed

When Obama Took office there were of course 137,000,000 full time employed

when he left office 143,000,000 full time employed

Full time employment increased 8,000,000 under Bush only 6,000,000 under Obama.

Today there are 146,000,000 full time employment. (This is because all the part time employment was upsized to full time as you can tell by the large decline in U6 unemployment.)

Trump has already had 1/2 as many full time employment gains that Obama had in 8 years.
Do you have a link, or are you just making that shit up?

Because on this planet according to the BLS https://data.bls.gov/search/query/re...b-1+historical
There were 130,681,000 non farm jobs when Bush took office, 109,928,000 in the private sector, 20,753,000 in the government sector
There were 132,042,000 non farm jobs when Bush left office, 109,571,000 in the private sector, 22,471,000 in the government sector
There were 143,273,000 non farm jobs when Obama left office, 121,104,000 in the private sector, 22,169,000 in the government sector

And today there are 146,541,000 total non farm jobs

Those numbers are from payrolls reported by employers. They include full time, and part time jobs.

So according to you, every job in America today is a full time job, and when Bush left office there were 5 million more full time jobs than there were total jobs.
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 05:37 AM   #24
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Do you have a link, or are you just making that shit up?
Give me a B give me an L give me an S

That spells Bureau of Labor Statistics.
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 05:41 AM   #25
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Trump kept a promise ?!

Excellent !

Please quote the exact wording of that alleged promise, and then disclose the details of his compliance.

Thanks.


That is beyond hysterical !
I'd never have dreamed anyone could lie so unpersuasively.

You've already posted the lie. Here's the correction:

U.S. President Bush has by far the worst economic record by the Reagan standard, than any other U.S. president.


- wow -

Untrue Bush had 3% GDP Growth or greater every year 1/4 except the first year (Because of the Clinton Tech Bubble)

and the last 6 months (Thanks to the Democrat party failure to Heed Bush's Warnings of the need for Mortgage Regulation)


Obama did not have ONE SINGLE year of GDP Growth of 3%.
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 06:15 AM   #26
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Give me a B give me an L give me an S

That spells Bureau of Labor Statistics.
So you did make the numbers up.
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 06:18 AM   #27
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Untrue Bush had 3% GDP Growth or greater every year 1/4 except the first year (Because of the Clinton Tech Bubble)

and the last 6 months (Thanks to the Democrat party failure to Heed Bush's Warnings of the need for Mortgage Regulation)


Obama did not have ONE SINGLE year of GDP Growth of 3%.
Bush left office with fewer private sector jobs than when he took office.
The only president since Hoover to do that.

Obama left office with 12 million more private sector jobs than when he took office.
Not as good as Clinton, but better than the two Bushes combined.
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 08:14 AM   #28
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" Bush had 3% GDP Growth or greater every year 1/4 except " T7 #25
- blah blah blah - Right. Except for the exceptions, Bush was a good president.
Except for the exceptions, Hitler was a good world leader.

The Republican demigod is Ronald Reagan.

The Reagan standard as Governor Reagan announced it to the world w/ deliberate stare into the video-cam after debating President Carter is:
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"Are you better off ..." RWR (R-CA)
Meaning:
How did the nation fare under the president's leadership.
Reagan was right about Carter:
- interest rates: skyrocket
- unemployment: bad
- hostages in Iran: 444 days
- failed rescue attempt: U.S. troops & aircraft lost in the desert
- etc.

BUT !!

When Governor Bush was inaugurated president, the U.S. was safe, at peace, and the economy was not in crisis.
8 years later, when U.S. Senator Obama (D-IL) was inaugurated the Bush administration had been losing ~800,000 private sector jobs per month.
Economic / industrial titans like GM teetered on failure.
Our nation was at Wars, with grim prospects in both theatres.

And after 8 years the U.S. was emerging or had emerged from the Bush recession. In fact I recently read we've had over 80 consecutive months of job growth. You can't credit Trump for that.

And the sanity check on all that is:
For 7 years the Republicans have been banging the gong of "repeal & replace".
For 7 years Republicans like Trump have promised:
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"I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's gunna be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now." Candidate Trump 15/09/27 to CBS Scott Pelly

"You're going to have such great healthcare at a tiny fraction of the cost." candidate Trump 16/10/25 from campaign podium
But the actual repeal & replace plan Majority Leader McConnell (R-KY) produced would have removed over ten million U.S. tax payers from healthcare coverage.

Trump lied about that, and much else.
And the nation prospered under Clinton & Obama, and took a terrible nose-dive under Bush.
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Then Obama got GWB off the hook by delivering up an even worse economic record. Obama now holds the title for worst economic record of any modern POTUS.
Substantiate that claim, please.
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when bush took office there were 129,000,000 full time employed

When bush left office there were 137,000,000 full time employed

When Obama Took office there were of course 137,000,000 full time employed

when he left office 143,000,000 full time employed

Full time employment increased 8,000,000 under Bush only 6,000,000 under Obama.

Today there are 146,000,000 full time employment. (This is because all the part time employment was upsized to full time as you can tell by the large decline in U6 unemployment.)

Trump has already had 1/2 as many full time employment gains that Obama had in 8 years.
Please post sources for your figures.
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