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Old September 6th, 2017, 02:27 PM   #51
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I am just pointing out that when some cites the "Jobs numbers" they mean the establishment survey, I wouldn't expect you to understand...
No, I just pointing out the data that makes up the data Set you use.

you use U3.

is a person that works 5 hours a week a full time employee?

Yes or No..

U3 counts him the same as a Full time 40+ hour a week employee.

U6 does not it counts him as UNDER EMPLOYED.

if a person has been unemployed more than 6 weeks, and the person gives up looking for a job U3 counts him as full time employed

U6 counts him as a DISCOURAGED worker.
Which is closer to the truth?

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No, I just pointing out the data that makes up the data Set you use.

you use U3.

is a person that works 5 hours a week a full time employee?

Yes or No..

U3 counts him the same as a Full time 40+ hour a week employee.

U6 does not it counts him as UNDER EMPLOYED.

if a person has been unemployed more than 6 weeks, and the person gives up looking for a job U3 counts him as full time employed

U6 counts him as a DISCOURAGED worker.
Which is closer to the truth?

You found a number you like better, having no clue as to the reason to use one number instead of the other, you use the one you like the best.
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Old September 6th, 2017, 05:16 PM   #53
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You found a number you like better, having no clue as to the reason to use one number instead of the other, you use the one you like the best.
No found nothing just using the same data set I begain with THE U6 employment.

Thanks for playing. I have not changed from my first post.



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There were 12,000,000 jobs created during the OBAMA administration.

6,500,000 of those jobs were PART TIME or temp jobs.

That is why the U6 in 2008 and 2016 was 9.2%

The U3 unemployment rate (which you love to quote, counts FULL TIME and PART TIME and TEMP jobs) as full time employment.

the U6 does not count part time and Temp Jobs as full time employment.

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Old September 6th, 2017, 07:58 PM   #54
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No found nothing just using the same data set I begain with THE U6 employment.

Thanks for playing. I have not changed from my first post.
It's not about you.
It's about the numbers that people use.
When they announce that there were 156,000 more jobs in August, that's the establishment survey, when they say Obama saw a 12 million job increase that's the establishment survey. When they say Bush saw a decrease in private sector employment, that's from the establishment survey.

If you use the same number, then it gives comparisons some validity.
But if you do that, Obama looks better than Bush, so you change numbers, mix 'em up, twist it all different ways, and it sounds better for Bush.

But you're only fooling yourself.
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It's not about you.
It's about the numbers that people use.
When they announce that there were 156,000 more jobs in August, that's the establishment survey, when they say Obama saw a 12 million job increase that's the establishment survey. When they say Bush saw a decrease in private sector employment, that's from the establishment survey.

If you use the same number, then it gives comparisons some validity.
But if you do that, Obama looks better than Bush, so you change numbers, mix 'em up, twist it all different ways, and it sounds better for Bush.

But you're only fooling yourself.
Talk about parsing data, you only talk about private sector jobs with GWB, leaving out the largest employers in the country and tens of millions of jobs. When you talk about Obama you use the number that excludes millions of jobs in the the agriculture industry. Those agriculture jobs are real jobs, but the number is decreasing steadily. That's why it is important to include them, the economy is shedding millions of those jobs, that's why Obama actually created less than 10 million jobs instead of the 12 million you claim.

Same story with Trump, it is important to include all the jobs in the US to accurately reflect his true record.
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And another total bullshit thread full of lies from the extremely ignorant and gullible Trump stooges. They will swallow anything they are told by their puppe-masters without ever even trying to verify it.

In the real world....

President Trump?s ?Unprecedented? Economic Growth? | MSNBC
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Old September 7th, 2017, 10:01 AM   #57
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And another total bullshit thread full of lies from the extremely ignorant and gullible Trump stooges. They will swallow anything they are told by their puppe-masters without ever even trying to verify it.

In the real world....

President Trump?s ?Unprecedented? Economic Growth? | MSNBC
Is this the same MSNBC that said Trump never paid taxes, and when Rachel Maddow aired we found out he paid 38,000,000 dollars in taxes in just 1 year.

That MSNBC.. ROFLMBO.

One more time, you cannot dispute the facts so you try to deflect. well, typical liberal mindset..

I don't like what you are saying HEY, LOOK A RABBIT I WILL CHASE IT NOW.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 11:29 AM   #58
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Bush left office with fewer private sector jobs than when he took office.
The only president since Hoover to do that.

Obama left office with 12 million more private sector jobs than when he took office.
Not as good as Clinton, but better than the two Bushes combined.
Yah, flipping burgers part time.
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Yah, flipping burgers part time.
That's what everyone pretty much figured you must do for a living.

Try to get some education past your current fourth grade level and perhaps you will be able to get a better job. Castrating pigs maybe. That would be a step up for you!
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Old September 7th, 2017, 01:32 PM   #60
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Bush left office with fewer private sector jobs than when he took office.
The only president since Hoover to do that.

Obama left office with 12 million more private sector jobs than when he took office.
Not as good as Clinton, but better than the two Bushes combined.
of the 12,000,000 jobs created 2009-16 6,500,000 were PART TIME JOBS

U3 vs U6.. Obama replaced full time workers with part time workers.
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