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Old September 14th, 2017, 04:21 PM   #161
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In most cases, except where one is coerced by outside forces to the point that a different choice is unthinkable,
Such as a cult?

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OR... if the person is mentally unbalanced to the point that they are potentially certifiable.
In cases like this, I have no opinion on this matter in which I have little to no understanding of.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 04:25 PM   #162
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How would you interpret that?
I can only interpret this as I would to myself; To be led astray. To not give into the many temptations of my base desires.

IOW's... The devil may have convinced me, but I was the one who chose to let myself be convinced. It would be my responsibility and no one or anything else's, to bear.
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How would you interpret that?
He interpreted it perfectly!
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Old September 15th, 2017, 09:30 AM   #164
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He interpreted it perfectly!
So it's just the devil trying to make you do it, is it?
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So it's just the devil trying to make you do it, is it?
It's not a cop out if that is what you're thinking? Theologically and secularly speaking, the responsibility is still on the Christian regardless of the influence.
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It's not a cop out if that is what you're thinking? Theologically and secularly speaking, the responsibility is still on the Christian regardless of the influence.
Many christian sect do not believe there is a devil or a hell.
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Many christian sect do not believe there is a devil or a hell.
I know. I forgot. I should have said then:; Caveat: regardless of the influence.
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