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Old September 5th, 2017, 09:30 PM   #81
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And God didn't tell everyone to keep the Law, just the Israelites. The New Testament tells us in Galatians 3:23-26 that those who have faith in Christ, that is, Christians, are not under the guardianship of the law. The law only applied to Israel until Christ came.
23 Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith,
So the ten commandments are sort of optional I guess.

Or who gets to choose which parts of the OT don't apply to you and which parts do?
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On a forum where 'libtard' and 'fascist Nazi' are two familiar epithets aimed at the other side, this may be a little rose-colored glasses moment for me. But I thought this was an excellent article.

Liberals and Conservatives Must Stand Together Against the Extremes

White nationalists carry torches on the grounds of the University of Virginia, on the eve of a planned Unite The Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, August 11, 2017.


Charlottesville. Berkeley. Houston. Three dots that lead to something urgent about our politics.

Let’s connect them.
No lets not! Figures this drivel is what the corporate militarist middleground otherwise known as the Washington Post wants everyone to believe and follow.

Making anti-fascists identical to fascists is Trump's rhetoric. And it looks like he and other fascists have some privileged, comfortable liberals on their side as well...who can be presented on CNN, MSNBC and other bullshit media as "the resistance." Well, the real resistance are the students and young people who put their bodies on the line facing organized fascists and sympathetic police!

I didn't see anywhere on the tube where Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris or members of the DNC were out there in the streets of Charlottesville taking on violent Nazis and their gun-toting "protectors of free speech." When torch-wielding nazis surrounded and threatening to torch the church Cornel West, Traci Blackmon and some other anti-fascist clergy were holding a prayer service in, it wasn't Chuck Schumer or Tom Perez who came to their aid, it was these anti-fa you and WaPo deride as anarchists who stepped in to confront the fascists: https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8/...lackmon_clergy
CORNEL WEST: Absolutely. You had a number of the courageous students, of all colors, at the University of Virginia who were protesting against the neofascists themselves. The neofascists had their own ammunition. And this is very important to keep in mind, because the police, for the most part, pulled back. The next day, for example, those 20 of us who were standing, many of them clergy, we would have been crushed like cockroaches if it were not for the anarchists and the anti-fascists who approached, over 300, 350 anti-fascists. We just had 20. And we’re singing "This Little light of Mine," you know what I mean? So that the—

AMY GOODMAN: "Antifa" meaning anti-fascist.

CORNEL WEST: The anti-fascists, and then, crucial, the anarchists, because they saved our lives, actually. We would have been completely crushed, and I’ll never forget that. Meaning what? Meaning that you had the police holding back, on the one hand, so we couldn’t even get arrested. We were there to get arrested. We couldn’t get arrested, because the police had pulled back, and just allowing fellow citizens to go at each other, you see, and with all of the consequences that would follow therefrom.

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Bitterness is not in that list either, and neither is cheating on your wife. Yet the Bible describes both of those as sins. Are you thinking that that list from a book of poetry is the only definitive word on what God considers to be sinful? If not, then I'm not catching your point in posting it.
Bitterness itself is not so much a sin as it is a human trait. I would say the sin comes in the cause of it, and what one chooses to do with that bitterness. If I become bitter because my neighbor has a better car than I do, that is born of coveting and ingratitude, sins of the heart that can lead to wrong behavior such as hating my neighbor and/or keying his car when he's not around (an act of grounded in deceit). Or I may slander him to others (that is also on the list). Or I may go so far as to do him physical harm. Clearly that is wrong.

How does one cheat on one's wife without practicing deceit? The very word "cheat" should be a give away. Notice the first item on the list-- a lying tongue. These are all sins of the heart that lead to wrong behavior.
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see! MY version of Christianity makes me a real man of God! My God is bigger than your God!

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No not at all Christianity is a belief that Jesus, the Son of God, who was God came to Earth, and died for all sins. He rose on the Third Day and later ascended to Heaven, that shedding of blood covers my sin when I accept the payment and ask him to be savior of my life. God is God, when I speak i use the authority of scripture. My version is according to the word, it makes me no better than anyone, but it is the truth according to scripture. Hope you have a great day
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No not at all Christianity is a belief that Jesus, the Son of God, who was God came to Earth, and died for all sins. He rose on the Third Day and later ascended to Heaven, that shedding of blood covers my sin when I accept the payment and ask him to be savior of my life. God is God, when I speak i use the authority of scripture. My version is according to the word, it makes me no better than anyone, but it is the truth according to scripture. Hope you have a great day
What is your Faith if not imprudent to ask.
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No not at all Christianity is a belief that Jesus, the Son of God, who was God came to Earth, and died for all sins. He rose on the Third Day and later ascended to Heaven, that shedding of blood covers my sin when I accept the payment and ask him to be savior of my life. God is God, when I speak i use the authority of scripture. My version is according to the word, it makes me no better than anyone, but it is the truth according to scripture. Hope you have a great day
Yours is YOUR INTERPRETATION of the 'truth according to scripture.'

You know, as well as I do, that there are various sects of Christianity that disagree on the interpretation of scripture.

That's where the "my God is bigger than your God is" comes in.

Your dogged determination and faith may be strong and deeply etched into your being - but that doesn't make it the only interpretation that is valid.

(I'm not being confrontational or mean - just pointing out)
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Christian! The Church I attend is Southern Baptist. I probably should not have typed that, as I will no be associated with Westboro ad nausea, even though I do not believe anything the preach!
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Yours is YOUR INTERPRETATION of the 'truth according to scripture.'

You know, as well as I do, that there are various sects of Christianity that disagree on the interpretation of scripture.

That's where the "my God is bigger than your God is" comes in.

Your dogged determination and faith may be strong and deeply etched into your being - but that doesn't make it the only interpretation that is valid.

(I'm not being confrontational or mean - just pointing out)
What scripture have I misinterpreted if you don't mind my asking?
The Bible is literal in my opinion more importantly in Gods opinion! JMHO
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I don't know any Christians who align themselves with Westboro Baptist Church.
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What scripture have I misinterpreted if you don't mind my asking?
The Bible is literal in my opinion more importantly in Gods opinion! JMHO
I didn't say that you had misinterpreted.

I said that your interpretation differs from others'.

I see no reason to believe that one is more valid over another.

Except I cannot believe that the Bible is meant to be taken literally. I do believe it's an amazing book with accessible and metaphorical stories, parables, scriptures and events that help us to lead good, productive, compassionate, ethical lives. But, I do not believe a man lived inside a big fish, I don't believe the Grand Canyon was made by Noah's Flood, I don't believe Eve had luncheon chats with a snake and I don't believe she populated the earth with her sons. (I could go on, but I won't.)

I am also a Christian. But, just because my religion is 2000 years old, doesn't mean my thinking is.
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