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Old September 7th, 2017, 11:27 AM   #11
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Oh look, another stupid lets bash Trump thread. I actually enjoy watching you idiots suffer.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 11:31 AM   #12
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the wall...the wall...the wall...the wall...what a dirge of advocacy for spending billions of dollars on a worthless piece of architecture. jesus.

DACA was fine. It was in place. It was working just fine. There was no issue. TRUMP made it a big issue because it was an executive order by Obama and Trump hates Obama so much that he is committed to reversing anything Obama did while in office. Hell, he'd take back a chili dinner if he thought he could reverse an Obama fart.

This is the nastiest, meanest, slimiest piece of shit politicking we've seen in this country for a long, long time at the expense of students.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 11:37 AM   #13
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the wall...the wall...the wall...the wall...what a dirge of advocacy for spending billions of dollars on a worthless piece of architecture. jesus.

DACA was fine. It was in place. It was working just fine. There was no issue. TRUMP made it a big issue because it was an executive order by Obama and Trump hates Obama so much that he is committed to reversing anything Obama did while in office. Hell, he'd take back a chili dinner if he thought he could reverse an Obama fart.

This is the nastiest, meanest, slimiest piece of shit politicking we've seen in this country for a long, long time at the expense of students.
But Bannon and tRump's base love it. I'm still trying to figure out which is more important to him. Probably his base, he loves big numbers.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 11:44 AM   #14
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But Bannon and tRump's base love it. I'm still trying to figure out which is more important to him. Probably his base, he loves big numbers.
You are correct.. we do love it because what Obama did was UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

YOU BE A SMART FELLOW, TELL ME WHAT DOES THE PREFIX "UN" MEAN.

now what Trump has done is REPEAL an UNconstitutional XO, and told Congress to start the CONSTITUTIONALLY CORRECT process to deal with These children's immigration status.

Damn, once again, more Proof Obama is dumber than even Bush.

That is why Obama violated the Constitution more than ANY MODERN PRESIDENT. Because he isn't the Constitutional Scholar you were told he was, he was a self serving fool.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 11:55 AM   #15
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yes, well, you know more than Yale and Harvard law schools.

so it must be so.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 11:56 AM   #16
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the wall...the wall...the wall...the wall...what a dirge of advocacy for spending billions of dollars on a worthless piece of architecture. jesus.

DACA was fine. It was in place. It was working just fine. There was no issue. TRUMP made it a big issue because it was an executive order by Obama and Trump hates Obama so much that he is committed to reversing anything Obama did while in office. Hell, he'd take back a chili dinner if he thought he could reverse an Obama fart.

This is the nastiest, meanest, slimiest piece of shit politicking we've seen in this country for a long, long time at the expense of students.
Hold your water there Tris, our President just cancelled the illegal Dreamer crap that our ex President Obama forced on this Country, he will probably never deport any of the Dreamers unless they do something illegal, and I don't mean getting a speeding ticket et. al.
This is what's really happening:

1. DACA ends today for anybody wanting to apply for the first time for a work permit or any other benefit.

2. DACA ends Oct. 5 for anybody wanting to apply for a renewal of a work permit.

But opening up of jobs for Americans won't begin in earnest until March
My top concern about the DACA work-permit amnesty has always been the addition of hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens competing in the legal labor market against struggling American workers and legal immigrants already here. This has created downward pressure on wages and meant that hundreds of thousands of Americans -- particularly Millennials -- do not have jobs at this time.

Atty Gen. Sessions noted this morning that around 800,000 DACA work permits have been given out since Pres. Obama created them in 2012. Those work permits are for two years but could be continually renewed. (That ended today.)
We were told this morning that around 690,000 work permits are still in effect due to some recipients not renewing along the way for various reasons.
That attrition will continue and provide some relief for American workers immediately.
However, the expiration of perhaps a thousand of the work permits a day will not begin until after March 5 next year.
Here's how the order has been laid out:
1. PENDING FIRST-TIME DACA APPLICATIONS: Young adult illegal aliens whose first-time applications for a work permit are still pending will be processed despite the end to accepting new applications as of today. (About 33,000 applications are said to be pending.)

2. DACA WORK PERMITS THAT EXPIRE SEP. 5, 2017 THROUGH MARCH 5, 2018 or which have renewal applications pending right now:
These illegal aliens will be allowed to renew for one more two-year period. But they will have to apply by Oct. 5, 2017. Many of these are likely to miss the deadline or decide for various reasons not to renew, which will begin to open up jobs as their employers are required to end their employment at the expiration of their work visa.

3. DACA WORK PERMITS THAT EXPIRE AFTER MARCH 5, 2018: These illegal aliens will not be allowed to apply for renewals for the Oct. 5 deadline. They will be able to hold their jobs -- or even get new jobs -- until the expiration date on their work visa. Perhaps a thousand a day will be expiring starting March 6 and through 2019.

DON'T LISTEN TO THE SMUGGLERS
The White House is concerned that smugglers in other countries will entice people to fork over their savings to get to the U.S. before Oct. 5 in order to file for these work permits.
The fact is that nobody can gain anything under this order unless:
(a) they filed an initial application before today
(b) or they already have a work permit
THE THREATS BEFORE US
Huge efforts among the mainstream media, corporate lobbyists, the community of foundations and leaders of both parties in Congress are already underway to pass an amnesty for these DACA recipients. Typically, they do not include any provisions to reduce the harm to vulnerable American workers, nor any provisions to keep foreign parents from putting their children into this situation in the future.
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You realize that we are talking about people born here who are going to be deported to ... where? They're FROM HERE.
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LOL

Crazy. like a fox.

Wollman Rink.

Built a multi-billion dollar real estate empire, lost it, rebuilt it bigger than before.

Gets outspent by a huge amount by Hillary and is elected POTUS.

Yeah, he doesn't know what he's doing. Give me more of that if that is the case.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 12:06 PM   #19
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You realize that we are talking about people born here who are going to be deported to ... where? They're FROM HERE.
No one born here can be deported. They are citizens of the U.S.A., I thought you were smarter than this. Yes, I know it's a old stupid law and it needs to be changed, and I hope Trump is able to do something on this score when we redo our immigration laws.
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LOL

Crazy. like a fox.

Wollman Rink.

Built a multi-billion dollar real estate empire, lost it, rebuilt it bigger than before.

Gets outspent by a huge amount by Hillary and is elected POTUS.

Yeah, he doesn't know what he's doing. Give me more of that if that is the case.
Really? When did he lose his multi-billion $ real estate business?

Just because you're good at one thing, or even a couple of things, that does not mean you're good at all things.

I understand that Tiger Woods is a terrible bowler. *shrug*
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